Naming Cycloalkanes Homework: Confused on Answer

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In summary, the conversation is about the correct naming of a molecule with two substituents. The student is confused about why the instructor labeled the substituents in a specific order and asks for clarification. The instructor explains that the order is based on the precedence of the substituents, with the longer chain being numbered first. The full name of the molecule would follow alphabetical order, but the numbering is independent of this.
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On the attachment is the answer to one of my questions written next to it as the instructor provided.
But I am confused. I understand the first common naming answer, however the second, shouldn't it be 1 methyl, rather than 4,
and then 4-(1-methylethyl)? Because with 2 substituents you label in alphabetical order. Am I missing some information that would allow me to label it as my instructor did?
Please advise if you can.

Thank you in advance.
 

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shouldnt it be 1 methyl, rather than 4,
and then 4-(1-methylethyl)? Because with 2 substituents you label in alphabetical order.
The methylethyl group is a chain of three carbon atoms, so it has precedence over the methyl with one carbon. Therefore, in terms of numbering, it is 1-(1-methylethyl) and 4-methyl. It is for the same reason that it is the isopropyl that gets numbered 1 (the numbering is independent of how you choose to name the group, isopropyl vs 1-methylethyl).

Note that in the full name, alphabetic order is used:

trans-1-isopropyl-4-methylcycloheptane

trans-4-methyl-1-(1-methyethyl)cycloheptane
 
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FAQ: Naming Cycloalkanes Homework: Confused on Answer

What is a cycloalkane?

A cycloalkane is a type of organic compound that contains a closed ring of carbon atoms. It is a type of hydrocarbon, meaning it is made up of only carbon and hydrogen atoms.

2. How do you name cycloalkanes?

The naming of cycloalkanes follows the same rules as naming alkanes. The number of carbon atoms in the ring is indicated by the prefix "cyclo" followed by the ending -ane. The position of any substituents on the ring is indicated by a number before the prefix, with the number 1 being reserved for the substituent closest to the first carbon in the ring.

3. What is the difference between cis and trans cycloalkanes?

Cis and trans refer to the relative positions of substituents on a cycloalkane ring. In cis configuration, the substituents are on the same side of the ring, while in trans configuration, they are on opposite sides. This can affect the physical properties of the compound, such as melting and boiling points.

4. Why do some cycloalkanes have different conformations?

Cycloalkanes can undergo different conformations due to the rotation of bonds within the ring. This can lead to different shapes and structures, which can affect the reactivity and stability of the compound. Some common conformations include chair, boat, and twist-boat.

5. How do you draw the structural formula for a cycloalkane?

The structural formula for a cycloalkane can be drawn by showing the ring of carbon atoms and indicating the bonds between them. Each carbon atom will have four bonds, either to other carbon atoms or to hydrogen atoms. Any substituents on the ring should also be shown, with their position indicated by a number before the prefix.

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