Non-linear Replacements for QM

In summary, there are two schools of thought regarding non-linear replacements for quantum mechanics (QM). Some suggest non-linear time evolution, while others propose small corrections to the Schroedinger equation. It would be difficult to differentiate between a deviation of unitarity and experimental error. Penrose's Felix experiment proposal aims to show that quantum interference disappears due to non-linearity, but it is challenging to observe interference accurately. Leggett's paper offers insightful discussion on the topic, although it is critical of the many-worlds interpretation.
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Rade
In another thread, PF member "SelfAdjoint" made the following comment:
...and indeed you see papers suggesting non-linear replacements for QM and nonlocal replacements for relativity...
I am interesting in reading such papers that "suggest" non-linear replacements for quantum mechanics (QM). Would anyone know of internet links ?
Also, I have a question, if in fact it can be shown that reality is non-linear (not unitary), would not such an experiment falsify QM as a valid theory, since by its definition QM requires that quantum realities be unitary ? Thanks for helping me better understand a very complex topic.
 
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Rade said:
I am interesting in reading such papers that "suggest" non-linear replacements for quantum mechanics (QM). Would anyone know of internet links ?

There are two "schools": some have a *reason* to have non-linear time evolution (the one that comes to mind is Penrose of course ; or look at the recent hype around Heim's theory), and others try to introduce small, made-up non-linear corrections to the Schroedinger equation in order to obtain a genuine collapse (Stamatescu for instance).

Also, I have a question, if in fact it can be shown that reality is non-linear (not unitary), would not such an experiment falsify QM as a valid theory, since by its definition QM requires that quantum realities be unitary ?

It is going to be difficult to differentiate between a (small) deviation of unitarity, and some error in the modelling of the experimental setup.
The idea would probably be to try to detect an expected quantum interference phenomenon, and observe that it doesn't appear.

For instance, look at Penrose's Felix experiment proposal, where he tries to show that, once a gravitational effect is introduced, quantum interference should disappear because of his postulated non-linearity which induces collapse. But *it is quite difficult, experimentally, to observe quantum interference* ! Any tiny uncontrolled effect can screw up the phase relations between the terms that should interfere, and destroy the coherence.
When you observe interference, there's no doubt: you've seen an effect. However, when you do not see interference, is it fundamental, or have you overlooked a perturbation in the experiment ?
 
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Thank you Vanesch--I will google search Penrose Felix and Stamatescu, any others come to mind ?
 
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Careful pointed me out to a paper in which such kinds of discussion is helt. It is quite negative about MWI (but with no good argument!), but apart from that, it's a great read, and Leggett is after all a Nobel laureate.

http://www.physics.uiuc.edu/People/Faculty/profiles/Leggett/PhysicaC-2002.pdf
 

FAQ: Non-linear Replacements for QM

What is the concept behind non-linear replacements for QM?

Non-linear replacements for QM are theoretical models that aim to replace the fundamental principles of quantum mechanics with non-linear equations. These models suggest that the uncertainty principle and the wave-particle duality may not be the most accurate descriptions of the behavior of particles at the quantum level.

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Non-linear replacements for QM propose a fundamentally different way of understanding the behavior of particles at the quantum level. Rather than relying on linear equations, these models suggest that non-linear equations may better explain the complexity of quantum phenomena.

What evidence supports the use of non-linear replacements for QM?

Currently, there is no experimental evidence to support the use of non-linear replacements for QM. These models are still purely theoretical and have yet to be tested or proven through experimentation.

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If non-linear replacements for QM were to be proven correct, it would completely change our understanding of the behavior of particles at the quantum level. This could have significant impacts on fields such as quantum computing and quantum physics.

What challenges do scientists face in developing and testing non-linear replacements for QM?

One of the main challenges in developing and testing non-linear replacements for QM is the lack of experimental evidence. Additionally, these models are highly complex and require advanced mathematical techniques, making them difficult to study and understand.

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