Overall, H2O More Negative Than Positive?

In summary, the image shows that although the Hydrogen atoms are on the same side of the Oxygen atom, they do not distribute evenly, which affects the molecule's overall polarity.
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There is a link to a picture below. It shows two Hydrogen atoms on the same side of an Oxygen atom (both on the lower half of the Oxygen atom). Because the distribution of Hydrogen in H2O is not symmetrical, does that mean that, on average, the H2O molecule is more negatively charged in its interactions with matter? I have read that the molecule has a positive end and a negative end. Is the negative end more dominant, overall?

The image can be found at the top right of this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_%28molecule%29"

Thanks,

Jake
 
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No. A water molecule contains the same number of protons and electrons, therefore it is neutral. The fact that they are distributed unevenly makes for some interesting chemistry, but does not change the fact that the molecule, as a unit, is neutral.
 
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No, a water molecule is electrically neutral, overall. It has 10 protons and 10 electrons, so the net charge is zero.

EDIT: Not surprisingly, MrSpeedyBob was faster in replying than I was. :smile:
 
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Redbelly98 said:
No, a water molecule is electrically neutral, overall. It has 10 protons and 10 electrons, so the net charge is zero.

EDIT: Not surprisingly, MrSpeedyBob was faster in replying than I was. :smile:

Perhaps you are neglecting the positioning of the Hydroden atoms to the Oxygen atom? After all, forces do diminish with distance.

Jake
 
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Like here: "Molecules that have 'low' symmetry will always have at least a small dipole moment and therefore be referred to as polar. Examples of such low symmetry molecular shapes include: Bent molecules, eg. water"

Source: http://itl.chem.ufl.edu/2041_u01/lectures/lec_16.html"
 
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jaketodd said:
Like here: "Molecules that have 'low' symmetry will always have at least a small dipole moment and therefore be referred to as polar. Examples of such low symmetry molecular shapes include: Bent molecules, eg. water"

Source: http://itl.chem.ufl.edu/2041_u01/lectures/lec_16.html"

Your original question was not whether or not it had a dipole moment (which it does), but whether or not it was overall negatively charged (which it isn't). Hopefully you understand that these are two different things.
 
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jaketodd said:
Perhaps you are neglecting the positioning of the Hydroden atoms to the Oxygen atom? After all, forces do diminish with distance.

Jake
Forces between charges do diminish with distance, but the amount of charge doesn't.
 
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jaketodd said:
There is a link to a picture below. It shows two Hydrogen atoms on the same side of an Oxygen atom (both on the lower half of the Oxygen atom). Because the distribution of Hydrogen in H2O is not symmetrical, does that mean that, on average, the H2O molecule is more negatively charged in its interactions with matter? I have read that the molecule has a positive end and a negative end. Is the negative end more dominant, overall?

The image can be found at the top right of this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_%28molecule%29"

Thanks,

Jake

No, it is neutral, its net charge is zero. That is why we write it as H2O, which is the same than [ H2O ]+0 or [ H2O ]-0

in the liquid phase molecules dissociate into [ H3O ]+ and [ OH ]- each of them charged, but the net charge of the fluid is zero of course.
 
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Thanks guys,

Jake
 

FAQ: Overall, H2O More Negative Than Positive?

What does it mean when H2O is more negative than positive?

When H2O is more negative than positive, it means that there are more negative ions (such as OH-) present in the water than positive ions (such as H+). This can be caused by the presence of certain minerals or chemicals in the water, which can affect its overall charge.

Is H2O being more negative than positive a bad thing?

Not necessarily. The overall charge of water can vary depending on its environment, and some negative ions can actually have beneficial effects on human health. However, it is important to monitor the levels of negative and positive ions in water to ensure it is safe for consumption.

How does the negative charge of H2O affect its properties?

The negative charge of H2O can affect its properties in several ways. It can make the water more reactive, allowing it to dissolve or react with certain substances. It can also affect the surface tension of water, making it easier for certain insects to walk on it. Additionally, the negative charge can help to neutralize harmful bacteria and pollutants in the water.

What causes H2O to become more negative than positive?

Several factors can contribute to H2O becoming more negative than positive. These include the presence of certain minerals, such as calcium and magnesium, which can increase the negative charge of water. Pollution and environmental factors can also play a role in altering the overall charge of water.

Can the negative charge of H2O be changed?

Yes, the negative charge of H2O can be changed through various methods. For example, water can be treated with filters or chemicals to remove certain minerals and ions that contribute to its negative charge. Additionally, exposure to sunlight or ionizing radiation can also alter the charge of water.

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