Question about exponents and i .

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In summary, the limit of i raised to itself infinitely many times is equal to 0. However, in the case of (a^b)^c = a^(bc), this only holds true if the exponentiation is done in a specific way. Exponentiation is not associative, so (a^b)^c is not necessarily equal to a^(bc).
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how would I simplify or figure out [itex] i^{i^{i..}} [/itex]
this keep going an infinite tower of i's
 
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(a^b)^c = a^(bc)

i^i^i^... = i^(i*i*i*...)
[tex]= \lim_{n→∞}i^{(n\,i)} = \lim_{n→∞}(i^{\,i})^{n}[/tex]
[tex]i^{\,i} = e^{-\pi/2}[/tex]
[tex]\lim_{n→∞}(i^{\,i})^{n} = \lim_{n→∞}\frac{1}{e^{n\pi/2}} = 0[/tex]
 
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why does (a^b)^c equal a^(bc)
x^x^x does not equal x^(x^2)
 
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cragar said:
how would I simplify or figure out [itex] i^{i^{i..} [/itex]
this keep going an infinite tower of i's

Hey cragar.

In terms of this I don't think you are going to get a closed-form solution but there is a way to go from say i^i using eulers identity.

To do this we use i^i = e^(i * ln(i)) = e^(itheta) where theta = ln(i). We use the principle branch for ln(i), which gives cos(ln(i)) + isin(ln(i)) = e^(-pi/2) = 0.207879576.

Another way is to use i^i = ((-1)^(1/2))^i = e^(1/2*i^2*pi) = e^(-pi/2), since i has principal argument of pi/2 (cos(pi/2) + isin(pi/2) = i).

Applying this again gives us (e^(-pi/2))^i = e^(-ipi/2) = cos(-pi/2) + isin(-pi/2) = -i. But now are back to the imaginary i in negative form!

I'm guessing (but you will have verify) that we will eventually get back to i after doing this process again (kind of like a spinor).

Because of this, the value in the infinite limit will not exist in the sense of something fixed and something that converges to a definitive value.
 
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cragar said:
why does (a^b)^c equal a^(bc)
x^x^x does not equal x^(x^2)

(a^b)^c = a^(bc), but that is not what you have. You have a^(b^c), which is not equal to a^(bc). Exponentiation is not associative.

As for the actual limit, the result is apparently quoted on this wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-exponentiation#Extension_to_complex_bases

There is a formula for a number x raised to itself infinitely many times in terms of the Lambert-W function (which is also quoted on that page), but there does not appear to be a proved extension for complex numbers.
 
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If the limit exists, it is a solution of iz = z.
Writing z = re:
r π cos(θ) = 2θ
r π sin(θ) = -2 ln(r)
The solution at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super-e..._complex_bases does indeed satisfy these equations.
 
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math man said:
(a^b)^c = a^(bc)
This is true but cragar i talking about [itex]a^{b^c}[/itex]

i^i^i^... = i^(i*i*i*...)
[tex]= \lim_{n→∞}i^{(n\,i)} = \lim_{n→∞}(i^{\,i})^{n}[/tex]
[tex]i^{\,i} = e^{-\pi/2}[/tex]
[tex]\lim_{n→∞}(i^{\,i})^{n} = \lim_{n→∞}\frac{1}{e^{n\pi/2}} = 0[/tex]
 

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1. What is an exponent?

An exponent is a mathematical notation that indicates the number of times a base number is multiplied by itself. It is represented by a small superscript number placed to the right and above the base number. For example, in the expression 23, 2 is the base and 3 is the exponent. This means 2 is multiplied by itself 3 times, resulting in 8.

2. What is the purpose of using exponents?

Exponents are used to represent repeated multiplication in a shorter and more convenient way. This is especially useful when dealing with large numbers or complex equations. They are also used in various scientific and mathematical formulas, such as in calculating compound interest or representing values in scientific notation.

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