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Biblical accounts of the construction of an ancient underground tunnel below Jerusalem have been verified by dating the material lining its walls.
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994156
Biblical accounts of the construction of an ancient underground tunnel below Jerusalem have been verified by dating the material lining its walls.
You know, I was thinking the exact same thing?Originally posted by radagast
I bet all the people that don't think radio-dating is accurate because it's shows the Earth much more than 6000 years old, and the Shroud of Turin only from the middle ages, won't have any problem with this study. Nothing like picking and choosing what you want to accept as true.
Sounds like you're not particularly happy with these results, and would just assume pick and choose as well?Originally posted by radagast
I bet all the people that don't think radio-dating is accurate because it's shows the Earth much more than 6000 years old, and the Shroud of Turin only from the middle ages, won't have any problem with this study. Nothing like picking and choosing what you want to accept as true.
I don't think anyone is unhappy with the results, bub...because they don't prove anything at all. If this sort of thing is 'proof' of a religion, then Egyptian mythology has the best odds of being true.Originally posted by Iacchus32
Sounds like you're not particularly happy with these results, and would just assume pick and choose as well?
Of course I had better read the article first and see what everybody's talking about.
Yes, there is the least tiny bit of historical accuracy to the Bible! Oh man that just makes my day!Originally posted by Zero
I don't think anyone is unhappy with the results, bub...because they don't prove anything at all. If this sort of thing is 'proof' of a religion, then Egyptian mythology has the best odds of being true.
What on Earth are you talking about?but for one of the biggest historical innacuracies of the bible, (age of earth) they ignore the same results.
And yet who's to say that in God's time frame a day isn't equivalent to a billion years? That would be getting little bit closer wouldn't it? Whereas the idea of one week may have more to do with the idea of "completion," which I believe is what the number 7 signifies.Originally posted by megashawn
Wasn't it KAT that had the quote about how historically accurate the bible is?
I don't think anyone thinks the bible is completely innacurrate about history. That seems to be one of its purposes.
And this proves that, well, someone wrote about an old tunnel being built.
Your right, in that proving its accuracy still falls short of proving for god. I just love the way people cling to little proofs like this, and will support the radio dating, but for one of the biggest historical innacuracies of the bible, (age of earth) they ignore the same results.
Megashawn's I haven't quite figured out yet, but PF is a distinct religious possibility for him/her.
Originally posted by Iacchus32
Sounds like you're not particularly happy with these results, and would just assume pick and choose as well?
Of course I had better read the article first and see what everybody's talking about.
Hmmm...you are full of it, and I think you even know it. Cultures preserve cultural history, there is no question about that. Of course they remember large imigrations, times when Jews committed genocide, etc. That doesn't prove a single thing about the religious aspect.Originally posted by Iacchus32
Yes, there is the least tiny bit of historical accuracy to the Bible! Oh man that just makes my day!
Isn't that like one of the main gripes, that there's nothing historically accurate about it?
Of course even if they could vouch for it being 100% accurate, that's still only evidence of religion, not necessarily God Itself. So in this respect I guess you're still safe. You can relax now, Okay?
However, you may begin wonder why they would go to any lengths at all to obtain historical accuracy, if that doesn't apply to the God of the same time frame? -- which, is what so much of their history is about. Hmm ...
There's a reason that your definition is fourth on the list: BECAUSE IT ISN"T AS GOOD AS THE OTHER THREE!Originally posted by Tsunami
Here's definition #4 of 'religion' from dictionary.com
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.
By this definition, you all have a religion. Ivan's religion seems to be trying to get people to have an open mind. Radagast's seems to be science. Zero, your religion is getting people to believe that God and the Bible are lies. Iacchus, yours is numbers. Megashawn's I haven't quite figured out yet, but PF is a distinct religious possibility for him/her. Lasar Eyes seemingly has an agenda to support Biblical content. None of you will allow any of the others their opinion or 'religion' without dissing them for it. Stubborn old goats. Y'all are sounding like a bunch of Republicans. Quit yer damn fighting and go make someone you love happy.
Originally posted by Tsunami
Here's definition #4 of 'religion' from dictionary.com
4. A cause, principle, or activity pursued with zeal or conscientious devotion.
By this definition, you all have a religion. Ivan's religion seems to be trying to get people to have an open mind. Radagast's seems to be scienceZero, your religion is getting people to believe that God and the Bible are lies. ...
It's just seems like I've heard this so many times before, and it all pretty much sounds the same. Or, perhaps I misconstrued the "general whining" for a discontent of the acutal results?Originally posted by radagast
Where the hell did you get that? I didn't say anything one way or another about being happy/unhappy about this.
What are we comparing religions now?Originally posted by Zero
And, again I say, if historical accuracy and preservation of history is a standard, the Egyptians win hands down.
No, this is your logic, which is just as you stated above.By your logic, we have no choice but to say that the Egyptian gods are much more likely to exist than the Jewish one, because teh Jews had a book based on oral history, while the Wgyptians built mighty structures which still exist relatively unmarked by time.
Originally posted by Iacchus32
It's just seems like I've heard this so many times before, and it all pretty much sounds the same. Or, perhaps I misconstrued the "general whining" for a discontent of the acutal results?
It sounded kind of facetious to me. In which case I would suggest it stems from it not being in agreement with your views.Originally posted by radagast
What I wrote was a commentary on certain creationists and their picking and choosing of data. I didn't target christians in general, nor did I say anything whatsoever, implied or otherwise, concerning the dating this thread refers to.
They weren't lying, they were just wrong. You seem to buy into the Bible myth, do you claim that all other religions were lying?Originally posted by Iacchus32
What are we comparing religions now?
No, this is your logic, which is just as you stated above.
While all I'm saying is that isn't a wonder that wherever they go, that the notion of "their God" goes with them? Which is to say, why would they bother to portray the historical aspect correctly, and misrepresent God at the same time? -- i.e., in the sense that He doesn't exist, as you would have us believe.
That doesn't make any sense. Why would they be truthful on the one hand, when perhaps they weren't even looking to do so, while creating this tremendous fabrication (or outright lie) on the other?
Are you asking if I believe in monotheism? Essentially I do, and yet I believe that other religions, such as with Egypt and Greece, have their place.Originally posted by Zero
They weren't lying, they were just wrong. You seem to buy into the Bible myth, do you claim that all other religions were lying?
Originally posted by Iacchus32
It sounded kind of facetious to me. In which case I would suggest it stems from it not being in agreement with your views.
However, granted that they (the creationists) may not have the best means by which to present their case, considering that much of their "reasoning" may be erroneous, does not invalidate the case. In which case it may be just a matter of reinterpreting "their evidence" (by not taking the Bible too literally).
Radio-dating, also known as radiometric dating, is a scientific method used to determine the age of materials based on the decay rate of radioactive isotopes. By analyzing the ratio of different isotopes present in a sample taken from the tunnel, scientists can determine the approximate age of the material and compare it to the biblical account of when the tunnel was built. This can help confirm the authenticity of the tunnel and its connection to biblical events.
Radio-dating can be performed on a variety of materials, including organic materials like bone or wood, as well as inorganic materials like rocks or minerals. In the case of a Biblical tunnel, scientists may use samples of the rock or sediment found in the tunnel to determine its age.
The accuracy of radio-dating depends on several factors, such as the type of material being dated and the method used. However, when performed by trained scientists using proper techniques, radio-dating can provide a reasonably accurate estimate of the age of a sample. In the case of a Biblical tunnel, this can help establish its authenticity and connection to biblical events.
While radio-dating can provide valuable evidence to support the authenticity of a Biblical tunnel, it is not the only method used by scientists. Other methods, such as archaeological evidence and historical records, may also be used to corroborate the age and purpose of a tunnel mentioned in the Bible. Therefore, while radio-dating can be a useful tool, it should be considered in conjunction with other evidence.
As with any scientific method, there are limitations to using radio-dating to authenticate a Biblical tunnel. For example, the accuracy of the dating may be affected by contamination of the sample or the presence of other isotopes that can skew the results. Additionally, some tunnels may not contain materials suitable for radio-dating, making it difficult to determine their age using this method alone. As such, it is important for scientists to carefully consider these limitations when using radio-dating to authenticate a Biblical tunnel.