Rewriting a limit as a derivative

In summary, the conversation discussed rewriting the limit as a derivative, with the given expression being $\lim_{h\rightarrow 0} \dfrac{sec(\pi + h) + 1}{h}$. The hint given was to consider the function $\sec x$ and find its derivative at $x=\pi$ using the definition of derivative. The final answer was $\dfrac{d}{dx}[\sec x]$, with the hint being to re-write the expression as $\lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\sec(\pi + h) - \sec(\pi)}{h}$.
  • #1
NavalMonte
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I was asked to rewrite the limit as a derivative:

$$\lim_{h\rightarrow 0} \dfrac{sec(\pi + h) + 1}{h}$$

Any hints on how to start?
 
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  • #2
What function do you think you'd be taking the derivative of, do you think?
 
  • #3
Ackbach said:
What function do you think you'd be taking the derivative of, do you think?

I'm sorry but I'm not sure what you're asking.
 
  • #4
Well, when you calculate a derivative, it's the derivative of a function. What's the only function in sight here?
 
  • #5
Hello, NavalMonte!

It would have been considerate to give us the original problem.
I'm forced to guess what you are asking.


I was asked to rewrite the limit as a derivative:
$$\lim_{h\to0} \dfrac{\sec(\pi + h) + 1}{h}$$

I wager that the problem said:

. . [tex]\text{Given: }\:f(x) \,=\,\sec x[/tex]
. . [tex]\text{Find }f'(x)\text{ at }x = \pi\text{ by definition.}[/tex][tex]\frac{f(\pi+h) - f(x)}{h} \;=\;\frac{\sec(\pi+h) - \sec(\pi)}{h}[/tex]

. . . [tex]=\;\frac{\sec(\pi+h) - (-1)}{h} \;=\;\frac{\sec(\pi+h) + 1}{h}[/tex]

Note that: .[tex]\sec(\pi+h) \:=\:\frac{1}{\cos(\pi+h)} \:=\:\frac{1}{-\cos h}[/tex]

We have: .[tex]\frac{-\frac{1}{\cos h} +1}{h} \:=\:\frac{-1 + \cos h}{h\cos h} \:=\:-\frac{1-\cos h}{h\cos h}[/tex]

Multiply by [tex]\frac{1+\cos h}{1+\cos h}\!:\;-\frac{1-\cos h}{h\cos h}\cdot\frac{1+\cos h}{1+\cos h}[/tex]

. . . [tex]=\;-\frac{1-\cos^2h}{h\cos h(1+\cos h)} \;=\;-\frac{\sin^2h}{h\cos h(1+\cos h)} [/tex]

. . . [tex]=\;-\frac{\sin h}{h}\cdot\frac{\sin h}{\cos h(1+\cos h)} [/tex]Thus: .[tex]\lim_{h\to0}\left[-\frac{\sin h}{h}\cdot\frac{\sin h}{\cos h(1 + \cos h)} \right] \:=\:-1\cdot\frac{0}{1(2)} \:=\:0[/tex]
 
  • #6
What Ackbach was getting at is:

What is $\sec(\pi) = \dfrac{1}{\cos(\pi)}$?

Do you see an expression in your formula that is the negative of this?
 
  • #7
Rewriting this limit into a derivative:

$$\lim_{h\rightarrow 0} \dfrac{sec(\pi + h) + 1}{h}$$

Looks like it came from:

$$\lim_{h\rightarrow 0} \dfrac{f(a + h) - f(a)}{h}$$

I have to ask:

a=?
f(a+h)=?

So,
a = $\pi$
f(a + h) = sec($\pi$ + h)

therefore,
f(a) = Sec($\pi$) = -1

Plugging it back in works out:$$\lim_{h\rightarrow 0} \dfrac{sec(\pi + h) - (-1)}{h} => \lim_{h\rightarrow 0} \dfrac{sec(\pi + h) + 1}{h}$$

So the answer would be:

$$\lim_{h\rightarrow 0} \dfrac{sec(\pi + h) + 1}{h} = \dfrac{d}{dx}[cos(x)]$$

Would this be correct?
I had a professor give me a hint, but I'm not to sure if this would be what the question was asking for.
 
  • #8
Nope.

You had everything right until this point:

$\displaystyle \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\sec(\pi + h) + 1}{h}$

now if $\sec(\pi) = -1$, we can re-write THAT as:

$\displaystyle \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{\sec(\pi + h) - \sec(\pi)}{h}$

which looks like it's the derivative of what we're calling $f$, which is...?

(Hint: it's NOT "cosine").
 
  • #9
Meant to say Sec(x).

Silly mistake (Doh)
 

FAQ: Rewriting a limit as a derivative

What is the concept of rewriting a limit as a derivative?

Rewriting a limit as a derivative is a mathematical technique used to evaluate limits that involve functions that can be expressed as a derivative of another function. This allows us to simplify the limit and make it easier to evaluate.

What is the general formula for rewriting a limit as a derivative?

The general formula for rewriting a limit as a derivative is as follows:
If the limit of a function as x approaches a is equal to L, then the derivative of the function evaluated at a is also equal to L.

How is rewriting a limit as a derivative useful?

Rewriting a limit as a derivative is useful because it allows us to solve difficult limits that would otherwise be impossible to evaluate. It also helps us to gain a better understanding of the relationship between limits and derivatives.

What are the steps involved in rewriting a limit as a derivative?

The steps involved in rewriting a limit as a derivative are as follows:
1. Identify the function in the limit expression that can be expressed as a derivative.
2. Rewrite the limit expression using the derivative notation.
3. Evaluate the derivative expression at the given value of x.
4. Simplify the resulting expression to get the final answer.

Are there any limitations to rewriting a limit as a derivative?

Yes, there are limitations to rewriting a limit as a derivative. This technique can only be applied when the function in the limit expression is differentiable at the point where the limit is being evaluated. Additionally, it may not always be possible to rewrite a limit as a derivative, and alternative methods may need to be used to evaluate the limit.

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