Simple Spring & Angular Fequency Problem

In summary, the conversation is about finding the effective spring constant, keq, by displacing the mass by Δx and using the formula F/Δx. The correct derivation is to find keq and then write the formula for w in terms of k and m. It is important to note that mg = (k1 + k2)x and not its negative, and equating mg to keqx only gives the equilibrium position, not the effective spring constant. The total force from the springs, F, can be found in terms of the given spring constants and Δx.
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Homework Statement


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Homework Equations


Fs=-kx

The Attempt at a Solution


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This question might be amateurish

Why does my answer equate to negative angular frequency when the given result is positive?
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Firstly , mg = (k1 + k2)x and not it's negative .

Secondly , what have you done here ?
Why have you equated mg to keqx ? This only gives you the equilibrium position .

Correct derivation would be - find keq , then write the formula for w interms of k and m .

Hope this helps .
 
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Qwertywerty said:
Firstly , mg = (k1 + k2)x and not it's negative .

Secondly , what have you done here ?
Why have you equated mg to keqx ? This only gives you the equilibrium position .

Correct derivation would be - find keq , then write the formula for w interms of k and m .

Hope this helps .

Thank you, it helps. But I am wondering how do I find
keq?
 
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shanepitts said:
Thank you, it helps. But I am wondering how do I find
keq?
There is a certain spring constant, keq, such that if we put a single spring with that spring constant in place of the other two springs, it would have the same effect.

So if you displace the mass by Δx, then the two springs exert a total force of F on the mass. That means (by the above definition) the effective spring constant is F/Δx.

So now try to find this total force F (from the springs) in terms of the given spring constants and Δx.
 
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Nathanael said:
There is a certain spring constant, keq, such that if we put a single spring with that spring constant in place of the other two springs, it would have the same effect.

So if you displace the mass by Δx, then the two springs exert a total force of F on the mass. That means (by the above definition) the effective spring constant is F/Δx.

So now try to find this total force F (from the springs) in terms of the given spring constants and Δx.

Thank you
 

FAQ: Simple Spring & Angular Fequency Problem

What is a simple spring?

A simple spring is a mechanical device that is used to store elastic potential energy. It is typically made of a coiled wire or ribbon and has the ability to stretch or compress when a force is applied.

What is angular frequency?

Angular frequency is a measure of how fast an object is rotating or oscillating. It is represented by the symbol ω (omega) and is measured in radians per second.

How do you calculate angular frequency?

Angular frequency can be calculated by dividing the number of complete cycles (or revolutions) by the time it takes to complete those cycles. It can also be calculated by multiplying the frequency (in hertz) by 2π.

What is the relationship between spring constant and angular frequency?

The spring constant (k) and angular frequency (ω) are inversely proportional to each other. This means that as the spring constant increases, the angular frequency decreases, and vice versa.

How does the mass of an object affect the angular frequency of a simple spring?

The mass of an object does not affect the angular frequency of a simple spring. The angular frequency is only affected by the spring constant and the force applied to the spring.

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