Solving 3 Coupled ODEs with a Constraint

In summary, the conversation discusses solving a system of 3 coupled ODEs with two variables and 1 Lagrange multiplier, where L1 and L2 are ODEs and C is a constraint. The suggested approach is to integrate one of the ODEs and then substitute the resulting expression in L1 and C, using methods from linear algebra to solve for x and λ. This method is known as the Lagrange multiplier method.
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while solving Lagrangian of a system to derive equations of motion in presence of a constraint, I have finally landed down to a system of 3 coupled ODEs , where i have two variables(x and y) and 1 Lagrange multiplier.
ODEs are of order 4,3 and 1 respectively.
L1(x,y)=lambda
L2(x,y)=0
C(x,y)=0
where L1 and L2 are odes and C is the constraint

Now how to solve such a system. Any suggestions?

My attempt was:
after deriving ODEs L1 and L2, i applied constraint and got these 2 ODEs in one variable by replacing another one, but i am still confused, these two ODEs will give the same solution? or i need to manipulate between these two as well?
 
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how?Also if i solve these two ODEs separately, is there any possibility that the solution of one ODE will satisfy the constraint equation or not? One possible approach is to integrate out one of the ODEs (say L2) and then substitute the resulting expression in L1 and C. This way you have two equations with two unknowns (x and λ). Then you can use methods from linear algebra to solve for x and λ. Once you have x and λ, you can use them to solve for y. This approach is known as the Lagrange multiplier method.
 

FAQ: Solving 3 Coupled ODEs with a Constraint

What is a "coupled" ODE?

A coupled ODE refers to a system of ordinary differential equations (ODEs) that are connected or dependent on each other. This means that the solution to one equation affects the solutions of the other equations, and they must be solved simultaneously.

What does it mean to have a "constraint" in the system of ODEs?

A constraint in the system of ODEs means that there is a relationship or condition that must be satisfied by the solutions. This can be in the form of an equation or inequality that restricts the possible values of the variables in the system.

How is solving 3 coupled ODEs with a constraint different from solving 3 independent ODEs?

Solving 3 coupled ODEs with a constraint requires solving the equations simultaneously, taking into account the constraint. This means that the solutions must satisfy both the equations and the constraint. In contrast, solving 3 independent ODEs means that each equation can be solved separately without any restrictions or dependencies on the other equations.

What are some common methods for solving 3 coupled ODEs with a constraint?

Some common methods for solving 3 coupled ODEs with a constraint include substitution, elimination, and using numerical methods such as Euler's method or the Runge-Kutta method. Symbolic software programs such as MATLAB or Mathematica can also be used for solving these types of equations.

What are some real-life applications of solving 3 coupled ODEs with a constraint?

Solving 3 coupled ODEs with a constraint is commonly used in various fields of science and engineering to model and understand complex systems. For example, it can be used in physics to study the motion of multiple interconnected objects, in biology to model biochemical reactions, and in economics to analyze the behavior of interconnected economic variables.

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