Solving the Level Curves of T(x,y)

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In summary, the conversation is about finding and sketching the level curves of a scalar field and exploring different methods to solve the problem, including using polar coordinates and completing the square. The conversation also touches on the misconception that the level curves must be circles and the importance of considering other possibilities.
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Ok, I've been trying to work this out for a couple of hours now and I'm completely stumped. Not even Google was helping much.

The question is:
Find and Sketch the level curves of the scalar field T(x,y) = (x +y)/(x2 + y2) for T = -1, -0.5, 0, 0.5, 1

I know that I should equate the equation to the values of T given and I suspect that I'll be getting 4 circles but it doesn't seem to work.

Here's what I've done:

(x +y)/(x2 + y2) = -1
x + y = -(x2 + y2)

Where do I go from here?!
 
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0 is easy. 1 and .5 should be easy too. The negative values are a bit tricky. A brute force way would be to put the x's on one side and y's on the other and then set the [tex] x+x^2 [/tex] to an arbitary value and then try to solve the quadratic equation for [tex] -y-y^2 = value [/tex]. The only trick is that your teacher probably doesn't want you to wander into imaginary (i) numbers.
 
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interested_learner said:
0 is easy. 1 and .5 should be easy too. The negative values are a bit tricky. A brute force way would be to put the x's on one side and y's on the other and then set the [tex] x+x^2 [/tex] to an arbitary value and then try to solve the quadratic equation for [tex] -y-y^2 = value [/tex]. The only trick is that your teacher probably doesn't want you to wander into imaginary (i) numbers.

The correct way is to simply complete the squares to read off the properties of the circles. This has nothing to do with imaginary numbers.
 
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You have
(x +y)/(x2 + y2) = -1
x + y = -(x2 + y[/sup]2[/sup])
Don't stop there!
x+ y= -x2- y2
x2+ x+ y2+ y= 0

Now, as Dick said, complete the square to get the equation of the circle.
 
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Not circles

I'm surprised everyone thinks this field's level curves are circles. They can't be.

Switch to a polar coordinate system:

[tex]x=r\cos\theta[/tex]
[tex]y=r\sin\theta[/tex]
[tex]T(r,\theta)=(\cos\theta+\sin\theta)/r[/tex]

For [tex]T=0[/tex], you get [tex]\cos\theta+\sin\theta=0[/tex] which occurs at [tex]\theta=-\pi/4[/tex]

For the other values, you have

[tex]\cos\theta+\sin\theta=Tr[/tex] for [tex]T=-1,-0.5,0.5,1[/tex]

and the only way these could be circles is if you could eliminate the [tex]\theta[/tex] dependence.

ZM
 
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zenmaster99 said:
I'm surprised everyone thinks this field's level curves are circles. They can't be.

Switch to a polar coordinate system:

[tex]x=r\cos\theta[/tex]
[tex]y=r\sin\theta[/tex]
[tex]T(r,\theta)=(\cos\theta+\sin\theta)/r[/tex]

For [tex]T=0[/tex], you get [tex]\cos\theta+\sin\theta=0[/tex] which occurs at [tex]\theta=-\pi/4[/tex]

For the other values, you have

[tex]\cos\theta+\sin\theta=Tr[/tex] for [tex]T=-1,0.5,1[/tex]

and the only way these could be circles is if you could eliminate the [tex]\theta[/tex] dependence.

ZM

I'm really impressed! You never considered that the circles might not be centered on the origin. Did you?
 
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Doh!

It's early in the morning. :)

I just gave the polar equation for a circle for [tex]T\ne0[/tex], didn't I? :-)

ZM---going back to bed for a few hours
 
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Thanks guys! I'll have Complete The Square burned into my memory from now on.
 

FAQ: Solving the Level Curves of T(x,y)

What are level curves?

Level curves are curves on a 2-dimensional graph that represent points where the output of a function, T(x,y), is constant. They are also known as contour lines or isoquants.

How do you solve for the level curves of T(x,y)?

To solve for the level curves of T(x,y), you can set the function equal to a constant value and then solve for either x or y. This will give you an equation in terms of one variable, which you can then graph to get the level curve.

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Level curves are important in science because they allow us to visualize and understand how a function behaves. They can help us identify areas of equal output, find maximum and minimum values, and analyze changes in the function over the input space.

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