Understanding the Logic of Quantified Statements

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In summary: The negation of $A\to B$ is $A\land\neg B$ and not $\neg A\to\neg B$. In fact, it is not entirely correct to say "the negation" because each formula has infinitely many formulas equivalent to it. For the same reason, the original problem is not well-posed. As it is stated now, it is enough to add $\neg$ to the beginning the formula.
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∃x∀y∀z[(F(x, y)∧G(x,z)) → H(y,z)]
 
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\begin{align*}
\neg\big[(\exists \, x)(\forall \, y)(\forall \, z)[(F(x,y) \land G(x,z)) \to H(y,z)]\big]
&\equiv (\forall \, x)\neg\big[(\forall \, y)(\forall \, z)[(F(x,y) \land G(x,z)) \to H(y,z)]\big] \\
&\equiv (\forall \, x)(\exists \, y)\neg\big[(\forall \, z)[(F(x,y) \land G(x,z)) \to H(y,z)]\big] \\
&\equiv (\forall \, x)(\exists \, y)(\exists \, z)\neg\big[(F(x,y) \land G(x,z)) \to H(y,z)\big].
\end{align*}
Can you finish?
 
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≡(∀x)(∃y)(∃z)[¬(F(x,y)∧G(x,z))→¬H(y,z)]
≡(∀x)(∃y)(∃z)[¬F(x,y)∨¬G(x,z)→¬H(y,z)]

Is this correct?
 
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The negation of $A\to B$ is $A\land\neg B$ and not $\neg A\to\neg B$. In fact, it is not entirely correct to say "the negation" because each formula has infinitely many formulas equivalent to it. For the same reason, the original problem is not well-posed. As it is stated now, it is enough to add $\neg$ to the beginning the formula.
 
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Evgeny.Makarov said:
The negation of $A\to B$ is $A\land\neg B$ and not $\neg A\to\neg B$. In fact, it is not entirely correct to say "the negation" because each formula has infinitely many formulas equivalent to it. For the same reason, the original problem is not well-posed. As it is stated now, it is enough to add $\neg$ to the beginning the formula.

≡(∀x)(∃y)(∃z)[¬F(x,y)VG(x,z))∧H(y,z)]

Would this be it?
 
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stan1992 said:
≡(∀x)(∃y)(∃z)[¬F(x,y)VG(x,z))∧H(y,z)]

Would this be it?
No. For one, this formula has unbalanced parentheses.

You should apply the law about the negation of an implication that I wrote more carefully.
 
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Evgeny.Makarov said:
No. For one, this formula has unbalanced parentheses.

You should apply the law about the negation of an implication that I wrote more carefully.

(∀x)(∃y)(∃z)(¬F(x,y)V¬G(x,z)∧¬H(y,z))

¬G is because of Dem. and ¬H from the Def→ right?
 
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The problem is in finding an equivalent formula for $\neg((F(x, y)\land G(x,z))\to H(y,z))$. I stated that $\neg(A\to B)\equiv A\land\neg B$. Please compare two formulas:
\begin{align}
&\neg((F(x, y)\land G(x,z))\to H(y,z))\\
&\neg(A\to B)
\end{align}
What should be substituted for $A$ and $B$ so that these formulas become equal, character-by-character? After you determine this, please write what $A\land\neg B$ looks like for those concrete $A$ and $B$.
 
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Evgeny.Makarov said:
The problem is in finding an equivalent formula for $\neg((F(x, y)\land G(x,z))\to H(y,z))$. I stated that $\neg(A\to B)\equiv A\land\neg B$. Please compare two formulas:
\begin{align}
&\neg((F(x, y)\land G(x,z))\to H(y,z))\\
&\neg(A\to B)
\end{align}
What should be substituted for $A$ and $B$ so that these formulas become equal, character-by-character? After you determine this, please write what $A\land\neg B$ looks like for those concrete $A$ and $B$.

≡(∀x)(∃y)(∃z)[(F(x,y)∧G(x,z))∧¬H(y,z)]
 
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stan1992 said:
≡(∀x)(∃y)(∃z)[(F(x,y)∧G(x,z))∧¬H(y,z)]
This is correct.
 

FAQ: Understanding the Logic of Quantified Statements

What is a quantified statement?

A quantified statement is a statement that uses quantifiers, such as "all", "some", or "none", to describe a set of objects or elements in a specific domain. It is used to express generalizations or relationships between elements.

What is the difference between universal and existential quantifiers?

Universal quantifiers, denoted by the symbol "∀", represent statements that apply to all elements in a given domain. Existential quantifiers, denoted by the symbol "∃", represent statements that apply to at least one element in a given domain.

How do you negate a quantified statement?

To negate a quantified statement, you can change the quantifier and negate the statement itself. For example, to negate "All cats have fur", you can say "Not all cats have fur" or "Some cats do not have fur".

Can a quantified statement have more than one quantifier?

Yes, a quantified statement can have multiple quantifiers, such as "All students in the class have passed at least one exam". In this statement, there are two quantifiers, "all" and "at least one".

How do you determine the truth value of a quantified statement?

The truth value of a quantified statement depends on the specific elements in the domain and the relationship expressed by the quantifiers. It can be determined by evaluating the statement using specific examples or by using logical rules and equivalences.

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