When acceleration and velocity vectors on the same graph.

In summary, the conversation discusses the relationship between acceleration and velocity on an x-y coordinate system. The acceleration vector can be in between 0 and 90 degrees, while the velocity component can be directly east on the x-axis. This represents situations in real life where an applied force is not in the same direction as the velocity. The conversation also explores what happens when the acceleration is pointing in different directions, and how it affects the object's speed and direction of travel. The use of vector components is a useful tool in analyzing the effects of forces on motion. The conversation also includes a graph showing the trajectories of two objects experiencing the same acceleration but in different directions. Overall, the conversation provides a deeper understanding of the relationship between acceleration and velocity and
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So basically, on an x-y coordinate system, the acceleration vector is in between 0 degrees and 90 degrees pointing north east, and the velocity component is pointing directly east resting on the x-axis. I was wondering what phenomena this represents in real life and I was also wondering, with the velocity pointing east resting on the x-axis for the next cases, what would it look like when the acceleration is pointing northwest, southwest, and south east. Here are examples of what I know so far. When the acceleration vector is pointing directly west resting on the -x-axis, and when the velocity is pointing directly east resting on the +x-axis the speed of the object is slowing down. The other example is when the acceleration vector is pointing directly north resting on the +y-axis and when the velocity vector is pointing to the east resting on the +x-axis velocity is not increasing and is constant.

For my question I stated above, I know that we can break them apart into vector components i and j; however, I don't understand what that means in real life and what is going on.
 
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jlyu002@ucr.e said:
So basically, on an x-y coordinate system, the acceleration vector is in between 0 degrees and 90 degrees pointing north east, and the velocity component is pointing directly east resting on the x-axis. I was wondering what phenomena this represents in real life
Any situation where the applied force is not in the same direction as the velocity: take your pick.
eg. speeding up while going around a corner ... the instantaneous total acceleration will be the sum of centripetal and tangential accelerations ... in this example, the center of the turn is to the north at the instant described. You'd also get this from (say) a hovercraft traveling at a constant speed east while the wind blows from the south-west - pushing it off-course; or where a charged particle is fired at an angle to the electric field.
and I was also wondering, with the velocity pointing east resting on the x-axis for the next cases, what would it look like when the acceleration is pointing northwest, southwest, and south east.
You can work it out by resolving the acceleration vector against the E-W axis ... the N-S component will push it off line and the E-W component will speed it up or slow it down.
Here are examples of what I know so far. When the acceleration vector is pointing directly west resting on the -x-axis, and when the velocity is pointing directly east resting on the +x-axis the speed of the object is slowing down.
Well done!
The other example is when the acceleration vector is pointing directly north resting on the +y-axis and when the velocity vector is pointing to the east resting on the +x-axis velocity is not increasing and is constant.
This is not the case - you have already said that there is an acceleration so, by definition, the velocity cannot be constant.

What happens is that the object moves at the same speed to the East, but gains speed to the North.

Breaking into components is a handy way to analyse the effect of forces/accelerations on motion ... what the force does is change the magnitude and the direction of the momentum vector.

A simple example ... the object moves to the east with constant speed ... then a force is applied producing an acceleration to the west. Initially the object slows down... then it stops ... then it heads off to the west, picking up speed.

If the same force is applied, but always north-west, then the object drifts to the north and slows down, changing direction and speed until it is traveling north-west and picking up speed.

If the same force is applied due north, then the object travels on a parabolic path towards the north... the rate of travel in the easterly direction is not affected.
 
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Here's an example of two cases...
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These are the trajectories of two objects both experiencing the same acceleration (0.2cm.s-2) from the same initial velocity (2.0cm.s-1 E) and sampled at 1/4 second intervals over 20 seconds. Both objects start out at the origin. +y is North and +x is East. Axis are labelled in centimeters.

The blue object is accelerating NW while the green one is accelerating due N.
 

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Woah! Thanks!
 
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Everything else is pretty clear; however, for the situation in which the acceleration points north and the velocity points east, does that mean only direction is changing? Because there is no j component for velocity and an only i component.
 
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oooo i get it. There is an acceleration pointing up. therefore the object traveling in the positive direction is being forced upwards.
 
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Yes! I get it!
 
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That's right, it's the green one above.

Notice that the distance between circles gets bigger too? This means the total speed is increasing as well as the direction of travel changing.

The blue one has the force 45deg W of N ... as that angle gets closer to 90deg W of N, the curve gets tighter and sharper until, at 90deg W of N = due W, the object just doubles back on itself.
 
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Cool, yeah as the velocity of the object turns into the direction of the acceleration it starts to speed up. Thanks so much Simon. Phew. Lastly, is the graph that you posted position vs time? I think it is because the slope of that graph represents velocity increasing. and the slope velocity increasing would be a constant upward acceleration. Nvm, figured it out. haha.
 
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You can plot these things yourself ... I used gnu/octave.
I had to resolve the vectors to components to compute x(t) and y(t) but I plotted (x,y).

Have fun.
 

FAQ: When acceleration and velocity vectors on the same graph.

What is the difference between acceleration and velocity vectors?

Acceleration is the rate of change of velocity over time, while velocity is the rate of change of position over time. In other words, acceleration measures how quickly an object's velocity is changing, while velocity measures how quickly an object's position is changing.

How are acceleration and velocity vectors related on a graph?

The slope of the velocity vs. time graph represents acceleration. This means that the steeper the slope, the greater the acceleration. Additionally, the area under the acceleration vs. time graph represents the change in velocity over time.

Can the acceleration and velocity vectors be in opposite directions?

Yes, acceleration and velocity vectors can be in opposite directions. This occurs when an object is slowing down, but still has a positive velocity. This can be seen on a graph as a negative slope for the velocity vs. time graph.

How can you determine an object's position from acceleration and velocity vectors on a graph?

To determine an object's position, you would need to integrate the acceleration vector to find the velocity vector, and then integrate the velocity vector to find the position vector. This requires knowledge of calculus.

Can an object have constant acceleration and changing velocity?

Yes, an object can have constant acceleration and changing velocity. This occurs when the object is moving in a curved path, such as a circle. In this case, the object's velocity is constantly changing direction, but its acceleration remains constant.

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