Why is \sin\theta = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} when \theta = 2?

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In summary: You were likely just doing something slightly incorrect with your limits of integration. In summary, the original integral was split into two integrals and a trig substitution was used to solve the first one. The substitution resulted in new limits of integration in terms of theta instead of x. The second integral was solved easily, and the two solutions were added together to get the final answer.
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I know this is easy but I am getting hung up on this problem for some reason.

Suppose we have \(\displaystyle \sqrt{8}sin\theta\) and we plug in \(\displaystyle 2\) for \(\displaystyle \theta\).

\(\displaystyle \sqrt{8}sin(2).\)

how are they then coming to the conclusion of \(\displaystyle \sin\theta = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\)

That makes NO sense! We just plugged a \(\displaystyle 2\) in for \(\displaystyle \theta\)! Where does the extra \(\displaystyle \theta \) come from?!
 
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I'm afraid you're going to have to give us some context for this question. Can you please give us the original problem statement, word-for-word?

(As a side note, you can't go from an expression to an equation, so yes, I'm very puzzled by that transition myself.)
 
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My teacher has left out some weird step that I am missing! Originally I am solving this \(\displaystyle 2\) \(\displaystyle \int^2_0 \sqrt{8 - x^2} - \frac{1}{2}x^2 dx\)

Ignore the second, that is easy so I split it up into two different integrals. Here is what I have so far, notice I am only doing the first one.

\(\displaystyle 2 \int^2_0 \sqrt{8 -x^2} dx\)

\(\displaystyle 2 \int^2_0 \sqrt{8 - \sin^2\theta} * \sqrt{8}\cos\theta d\theta\)

Also note that I have: \(\displaystyle 1 - \sin^2\theta = cos^2\theta\)
\(\displaystyle 8 - 8\sin^2\theta = 8\cos^2\theta\)
\(\displaystyle x^2 = 8sin^2\theta\)
\(\displaystyle x = \sqrt{8}\sin\theta\)
\(\displaystyle dx = \sqrt{8}\cos\theta \, d\theta\)

So now since I've done the substitution i need to update the limits... So my teacher said ok plug in the old limits into x.. Which I understand the first limit. He plugs in a 0. \(\displaystyle \sqrt{8}sin(0) \)= 0 thus the lower limit is 0 but for the upper limit he plugs in a 2 ...\(\displaystyle \sqrt{8}sin(2)\) and somehow gets \(\displaystyle 2 = \sqrt{8}sin\theta\) which becomes
\(\displaystyle sin\theta = \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \)

Like what am I missing here??
 
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Ah, thanks much for that background. Let's consider this integral:
$$\int_{0}^{2} \sqrt{8-x^{2}} \, dx.$$
I would indeed do a trig substitution. I think you have a bit of ambiguity in your substitution. Draw a right triangle, angle $\theta$, hypotenuse $\sqrt{8}$, and opposite side $x$. Then the adjacent side is $\sqrt{8-x^{2}}$. You have that
\begin{align*}
\frac{x}{ \sqrt{8}}&= \sin(\theta) \\
\frac{dx}{ \sqrt{8}}&= \cos(\theta) \, d\theta \\
\frac{ \sqrt{8-x^{2}}}{ \sqrt{8}}&= \cos( \theta)
\end{align*}
That will enable you do substitute in for the integrand and the differential. Now, the limits: $0$ and $2$ are $x$ values, because that is the variable in the differential. To get to $\theta$ values, you have to solve $0= \sqrt{8} \sin(\theta)$ for $\theta$, as well as $2= \sqrt{8} \sin( \theta)$ for $\theta$. There's no plugging $0$ or $2$ into the trig functions, because that's a category mistake: $0$ and $2$ are $x$-values, not $\theta$-values. Does that answer your question?
 
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Thanks so much!
 
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So is my work correct?\(\displaystyle 2 \int ^\frac{\pi}{4}_0\)

\(\displaystyle 2 \int ^\frac{\pi}{4}_0 \sqrt{8} cos\theta * \sqrt{8}cos\theta\)\(\displaystyle 2 \int ^\frac{\pi}{4}_0 8 cos^2\theta\)

then I brought the 8 out and got\(\displaystyle 16 [ \theta - \frac{1}{2} sin2\theta] |^{\pi/4}_0\)
 
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I don;'t understand what I've done wrong. How are they getting \(\displaystyle 2\pi + \frac{4}{3} \) as the final answer?
 
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Yes, I think your re-worked integral is correct. WolframAlpha confirms your result, both the original and the re-worked integral.
 

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