Why must exponents be dimensionless?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of dimensions and how they relate to mathematical objects. The discussion touches on the definition of dimensions, the use of exponents, and the application of dimensions in physics and mathematics. The conversation concludes with a mention of matrix exponentials and the distinction between upper and lowercase Greek letters.
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suppose we have ab
why must 'b' be dimensionless?

Mathematicians have defined crazy things over the centuries
so why haven't they defined this one?
 
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"Dimensions", in the sense that you are using the word (meters, kilograms, degrees Celcius) are not mathematical objects, they are physical. If you are asking why no physics formula, with exponents, has no units on the exponent, you will have to ask a physicist.
 
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I see, thank you sir.
 
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cocopops12 said:
I see, thank you sir.

If x is a variable then you do something like:

$$e^x=\sum_n \frac{x^n}{n!}=1+x+\frac{x^2}{2!}+...$$

Now does that sum make sense if x has a dimension?

However the exponent can contain variables with dimensions but they must cancel to give a dimensionless number:

eg. $$M(t)=M_oe^{-\lambda t}$$
 
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cocopops12 said:
suppose we have ab
why must 'b' be dimensionless?
If we restrict our attention to exponents that are positive integers, then an exponent means repeated multiplication. For example, x2 = x * x, and x3 = x * x * x.

The volume of a cube whose edge length is s is V = s3 = s * s * s. The units are tied to the variable s. All the exponent does is keep track of how many factors of s are present.
 
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trollcast said:
$$e^x=\sigma_n \frac{x^n}{n!}=1+x+\frac{x^2}{2!}+...$$

I think you meant $$e^x=\sum_n \frac{x^n}{n!}=1+x+\frac{x^2}{2!}+...$$

\Sigma works, though \sum tends to work a little better.
 
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Whovian said:
I think you meant $$e^x=\sum_n \frac{x^n}{n!}=1+x+\frac{x^2}{2!}+...$$

\Sigma works, though \sum tends to work a little better.

Oops, good trick with the \sum, I always wondered how to get the sigma bigger.

Fixed it now
 
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There are matrix exponentials for a given matrix X of nxn dimensions defined similarly to the ordinary exponential of a number.

eX = [itex]\sum[/itex][itex]^{∞}_{k=0}[/itex] [itex]\frac{1}{k!}[/itex] Xk
 
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trollcast said:
Oops, good trick with the \sum, I always wondered how to get the sigma bigger.

Fixed it now
Greek letters have upper and lower case forms: sigma is lowercase (##\sigma##) and
Sigma is uppercase (##\Sigma##).
 

FAQ: Why must exponents be dimensionless?

Why do we use exponents in scientific calculations?

Exponents are used in scientific calculations to represent repeated multiplication. It allows us to express large or small numbers in a more concise and manageable form.

What does it mean for an exponent to be dimensionless?

A dimensionless exponent is a number that does not have a physical unit attached to it. It is a pure number that represents the relative size or magnitude of a quantity.

Why is it important for exponents to be dimensionless?

Having dimensionless exponents is important because it allows us to perform mathematical operations on different units without affecting the final result. This makes it easier to compare and combine different quantities in scientific calculations.

Can exponents have units?

No, exponents cannot have units. They are simply numerical values that indicate the power to which a number is raised to. Units are only applied to the base number in an exponential expression.

How do dimensionless exponents relate to the laws of physics?

Dimensionless exponents often play a crucial role in the laws of physics, such as in the equations of motion and the laws of thermodynamics. They allow us to describe physical phenomena in a more general and universal way, independent of specific units of measurement.

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