Why the least action: a fact or a meaning ?

In summary, the conversation discusses the principle of least action in physics and various attempts to find a meaning or explanation for it. The link between classical mechanics and quantum mechanics and the concept of least action as a basis for quantum field theory is also mentioned. Additionally, the idea that many systems can be described using a Lagrangian and least action principle is brought up, leading to the question of why physics is based on differential equations. The possibility of learning more about physics from the principle of least action is also considered.
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lalbatros
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Have some people tried to find a meaning to the principle of least action that apparently underlies the whole physics? I know of one attempt, but not convincing to me (°). A convincing attempt, even modest, should suggest why it occurs, what is/could be behind the scene and how it might lead us to new discoveries.

The link from QM/Schroedinger to CM/Newton is a clear explanation for the classical least action. But the surpirse is that least action can be found nearly everywhere, even as a basis for QFT (isn't it?).

Michel

(°) this is how I understood the book by Roy Frieden "Science from fisher information"
 
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Feynmann gave a beatiful "justification2 or explanation of this principle when dealing with Path integral..if you have:

[tex] \int D[\phi]e^{iS[\phi]/\hbar} [/tex]

then the classical behavior h-->0 so only the points for which the integrand have a maximum or a minimum contribute to the integration in our case the maximum or minimum is given by the equation [tex] \delta S =0 [/tex] which is precisely the "Principle of Least action"... Unfortunately following Feynman there is no variational principles in quantum mechanics.
 
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eljose,

http://www.ece.rutgers.edu/~maparke...apts/Ch05-Dynamics/Ch05Sec05SchrodEqLagr.pdf"

Other systems surprisingly also have a Lagragian and a least action principle:
http://www.lns.cornell.edu/spr/2003-06/msg0052131.html"

Clearly this is an exception: this pictural explanation for the CM least action derived from the stationary phase limit of QM. Least action is seen nearly everywhere. This is why I asked the PF if there is explanation or a meaning behind that.

Would it be possible that a very wide range of differential equations can be reformulated as a least action principle? Then the explanation would be general mathematics, and the meaning would not be much of physics. This would translate my question to something like "why is physics based on differential equations?".

Or is there more to learn on physics from the LAP ?

Michel
 
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FAQ: Why the least action: a fact or a meaning ?

What is the principle of least action?

The principle of least action is a fundamental concept in physics that states that a physical system will always follow the path of least action. This means that the system will take the path that requires the least amount of energy and time to reach its final state.

Is the principle of least action a fact or a meaning?

The principle of least action is considered to be both a fact and a meaning. It is a fact in the sense that it has been observed and proven to be true in many physical systems. However, it is also a meaning in that it is a fundamental principle that guides our understanding of how physical systems behave.

How does the principle of least action relate to classical mechanics?

The principle of least action is a key concept in classical mechanics. It is used to derive the equations of motion for a system by considering all possible paths that the system could take and determining which one has the least action. This leads to the famous Lagrange's equations of motion.

Can the principle of least action be applied to all physical systems?

The principle of least action can be applied to almost all physical systems, from classical mechanics to quantum mechanics. However, there are some systems, such as those involving quantum tunneling or chaotic behavior, where the principle may not hold true.

What are the benefits of using the principle of least action in physics?

The principle of least action allows us to simplify complex physical systems and make accurate predictions about their behavior. It also provides a deeper understanding of the underlying principles that govern the behavior of physical systems. Additionally, it has applications in many different areas of physics, from classical mechanics to quantum field theory.

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