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Lino
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Good people,
As a 45 year old IT-PM, with no scientific / academic affiliations, can I ask, what I think should be, a relatively simple question please: do measured redshifts really imply universal expansion? I have a strong, but amature, interest in such things,and expected to quickly find the answer to be 'yes' after some time spent on internet searches. But after much reading / investigation, there is still an aspect with which I'm unsatisified.
Everyone is familliar with the balloon / raisis bread analogy, but consider, please, an analogy where were the universe is a (very) large bicycle wheel, add type 1a supernova at various points along the spokes, (for simplicity) assume that I am in the center, and give the system a spin. Won't there be a basic linear relationship between distance and measured redshifts to the standard candles, even though the system is not expanding? The obvious flaw in this analogy is the 'special' location of the viewer, but move me off-center, and I think the outcome is the same, except for the introduction of some blue shifted 'local groups'.
At this point in my little thought expirement, I expected to quickly find a paper / article that covered some aspect that I had not considered, but that was not the case. In fact the more I read, the more consistent the analogy seemed (doesn't require exotic forms of energy / matter, would be a factor impacting on Voyager / Pioneer trajectories, consistent with measured rotations of spiral galaxies / clusters, etc.). Now, while I still hope to find the 'silver bullet' that would explain my oversight, I appreciate that it is more likely to be a 'collection' of other obseverations that make the / an alternative interpretation more likely. .. but I'm having difficulty finding those obseverations / that evidence.
So my 'real' question is, given the above, can you make any comments or suggest / recommend any articles / papers that I might find useful?
Thanking you in anticipation.
As a 45 year old IT-PM, with no scientific / academic affiliations, can I ask, what I think should be, a relatively simple question please: do measured redshifts really imply universal expansion? I have a strong, but amature, interest in such things,and expected to quickly find the answer to be 'yes' after some time spent on internet searches. But after much reading / investigation, there is still an aspect with which I'm unsatisified.
Everyone is familliar with the balloon / raisis bread analogy, but consider, please, an analogy where were the universe is a (very) large bicycle wheel, add type 1a supernova at various points along the spokes, (for simplicity) assume that I am in the center, and give the system a spin. Won't there be a basic linear relationship between distance and measured redshifts to the standard candles, even though the system is not expanding? The obvious flaw in this analogy is the 'special' location of the viewer, but move me off-center, and I think the outcome is the same, except for the introduction of some blue shifted 'local groups'.
At this point in my little thought expirement, I expected to quickly find a paper / article that covered some aspect that I had not considered, but that was not the case. In fact the more I read, the more consistent the analogy seemed (doesn't require exotic forms of energy / matter, would be a factor impacting on Voyager / Pioneer trajectories, consistent with measured rotations of spiral galaxies / clusters, etc.). Now, while I still hope to find the 'silver bullet' that would explain my oversight, I appreciate that it is more likely to be a 'collection' of other obseverations that make the / an alternative interpretation more likely. .. but I'm having difficulty finding those obseverations / that evidence.
So my 'real' question is, given the above, can you make any comments or suggest / recommend any articles / papers that I might find useful?
Thanking you in anticipation.