Solving Goldstein 3.3: Taylor Series & Newton-Rhapson

In summary, the conversation discusses Kepler's equation and how to obtain successive approximations for the difference \psi - \omega t represented by \rho. The first approximation is given by tan \rho_1 = \frac{e Sin(\omega t)}{1-e Cos(\omega t)}, while the next approximation can be found using the second term in the sine expansion. The conversation also mentions a possible iterative approach using Newton-Rhapson method.
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Homework Statement


(Goldstein 3.3)

If the difference [tex]\psi - \omega t[/tex] in represented by [tex]\rho[/tex], Kepler's equation can be written:

[tex] \rho = e Sin(\omega t + \rho) [/tex]

Successive approximations to [tex]\rho[/tex] can be obtained by expanding [tex]Sin(\rho)[/tex] in a Taylor series in [tex]\rho[/tex], and then replacing [tex]\rho[/tex] by its expression given by Kepler's equation. Show that the first approximation by [tex]\rho[/tex] is given by:

[tex] tan \rho_1 = \frac{e Sin(\omega t)}{1-e Cos(\omega t)} [/tex]

and that the next approximation is found from:

[tex] sin^3(\rho_2 - \rho_1) = -\frac{1}{6}e^3 sin(\omega t + \rho_1)(1+e cos(\omega t))[/tex]


Homework Equations



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The Attempt at a Solution



Okay, the first part quickly pops out of the Maclaurin series for Sin(rho). The second part, however, I'm having some trouble with. I can think of many different ways this might be approximated and don't know which approach the book is looking for. If someone could set me on the right track, I'd very much appreciate it. (the e^3/6 is making this look like they want me to use the next term of the taylor series or something.)

Methods I can try:
Expand the taylor series around [tex]\rho=\rho_1[/tex] for the first however many terms. (While this may not be the method the book is looking for, it's probably going to give something more accurate than the maclaurin series with the same number of terms...)

Take the next term of the Maclaurin series. (I'm getting stuck when doing this.)

Something that strikes me odd, but perhaps he wants some sort of iterative approach using Newton-Rhapson at this point?

Thanks.
 
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That's not the expression for the second expansion I see in my version of Goldstein.
 
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you probably have the first printing. If you check the errata:

http://astro.physics.sc.edu/goldstein/1-2-3To6.html

you'll see that the expression typed above is indeed correct and it is what is printed in my sixth printing goldstein.
 
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Yeah, I just checked a more recent printing, and indeed, it's been fixed to what you have there. Apologies...

That's pretty clearly the second term in the sine expansion. I haven't worked out how it gets that form yet though.
 
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No worries. If you do manage to get in that form, I'd appreciate you setting me in the right direction. I can get almost there, but I can never get rid of terms involving [tex]\rho_2[/tex] that are not inside of the LHS sine.

Mainly, is it the second term of the Maclaurin series where I substitute in the first term for some constants, or do I re-expand the Taylor series about [tex]\rho_1[/tex] and take it to the cubic term. It's too much algebraic manipulation for me to sit down and beat it into submission without knowing that I'm doing what he actually expects.
 

Related to Solving Goldstein 3.3: Taylor Series & Newton-Rhapson

1. What is the purpose of using Taylor series in solving Goldstein 3.3?

The purpose of using Taylor series in solving Goldstein 3.3 is to approximate a function using a polynomial with an infinite number of terms. This allows us to simplify complex functions and make them easier to work with.

2. How does Newton-Rhapson method help in solving Goldstein 3.3?

The Newton-Rhapson method is an iterative process that helps us find the roots of a function. In solving Goldstein 3.3, we can use this method to find the optimal solution by finding the roots of the derivative of the function.

3. What are the key steps in solving Goldstein 3.3 using Taylor series & Newton-Rhapson?

The key steps in solving Goldstein 3.3 using Taylor series & Newton-Rhapson are as follows:

  • 1. Write the given function in its Taylor series form.
  • 2. Take the derivative of the function and set it equal to 0 to find the optimal solution.
  • 3. Use the Newton-Rhapson method to find the roots of the derivative.
  • 4. Substitute the roots into the Taylor series to find the optimal solution.

4. What are the advantages of using Taylor series & Newton-Rhapson in solving Goldstein 3.3?

The advantages of using Taylor series & Newton-Rhapson in solving Goldstein 3.3 are:

  • 1. It allows us to simplify complex functions.
  • 2. It provides an accurate approximation of the function.
  • 3. It helps us find the optimal solution quickly and efficiently.

5. Can Taylor series & Newton-Rhapson be used to solve other optimization problems?

Yes, Taylor series & Newton-Rhapson can be used to solve various optimization problems. These methods are commonly used in fields such as engineering, economics, and physics to find optimal solutions to complex problems.

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