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    B Choosing the number of trials when the data stream is unlimited

    I am collecting data from a Geiger-Muller radiation detector, which generates clicks that correspond to particles entering the detector. These clicks come in purely at random, so the number of clicks in a given time interval are governed by the Poisson distribution. My job is to find the average...
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    I Why Does Subtractive Cancellation Affect Measurement Precision?

    When subtracting measurements that each have a certain level of uncertainty, we can end up with huge levels of error if the two measurements are roughly equal in value. However, this problem doesn't appear when adding numbers. Question: Is there a name for this type of error? Does anyone...
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    B Standard Deviation as Function of Sample Size

    So is the mean a random variable and not a number as well?
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    B Standard Deviation as Function of Sample Size

    Okay, so you state that "As ##N## gets larger, this peak gets taller and narrower." That makes sense and what I always thought. Would this not mean that ##\sigma## drops as N increases? I would normally think that a tall, narrow probability distribution would correspond to a small ##\sigma##.
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    B Standard Deviation as Function of Sample Size

    Okay, let's go back to the equation: $$\sigma = \sqrt{ \frac{\sum_{i=1}^N (x_i-\langle x\rangle)^2}{N-1} }$$ Let's not even use the term "standard deviation." Here, N is the number of samples selected from a population. The average in the equation refers to the sample mean. The x_i's are...
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    B Standard Deviation as Function of Sample Size

    When you wrote "That is an estimator for the standard deviation of the mean of N measurements," what definition were you using?
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    B Standard Deviation as Function of Sample Size

    Interesting. I appreciate the feedback. So let me ask, how would YOU define the standard deviation?
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    B Standard Deviation as Function of Sample Size

    I used the NORMINV[] function in Excel to generate random numbers that are distributed normally about a mean. The distribution is continuous, unlike coin flips. As more and more numbers are generated, the standard deviation doesn't drop. Most say that as I increase the sample size, that the...
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    B Standard Deviation as Function of Sample Size

    As for Jensen's inequality and such, I'm not saying that the variance and standard deviations would rise by the same amount as N increases, only that if one increases the other must do as well and that if one stays constant, the other does as well.
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    B Standard Deviation as Function of Sample Size

    Sure, here is the standard deviation: $$\sigma = \sqrt{ \frac{\sum_{i=1}^N (x_i-\langle x\rangle)^2}{N-1} }$$ where $N$ is the sample size, $x_i$ is an individual measurement, and $\langle x\rangle$ is the mean of all measurements.
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    B Standard Deviation as Function of Sample Size

    That's cool. You should be able to, or at least edit out the text.
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    B Standard Deviation as Function of Sample Size

    As for your first question, I am referring to the standard deviation of N measurements of (say) the mass of an object, with an underlying normal probability distribution understood. As for the variance, why would it behave any different than the standard deviation? I mean, if the variance...
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    B Standard Deviation as Function of Sample Size

    But isn't the only difference between the two the fact that you divide √N in one case and √(N-1) in the other? That means for large N they pretty much behave the same. Or am I misunderstanding your point?
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    B Standard Deviation as Function of Sample Size

    In high school, I was taught that the standard deviation drops as you increase the sample size. For this reason, larger sample sizes produce less fluctuation. At the time, I didn't question this because it made sense. Then, I was taught that the standard deviation does not drop as you increase...
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