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The discussion focuses on evaluating the sum A=\sum_{m=-N}^{N} \cos(\frac{mk\pi}{N+1})\cos(\frac{mj\pi}{N+1}). The user presents initial results for specific cases of k and j, suggesting values of A based on whether k equals j or the parity of k+j. However, there is confusion regarding the consistency of these results, as the conditions cannot all hold simultaneously. Suggestions are made to utilize trigonometric identities to reframe the problem, particularly by relating it to known sums involving sine and cosine. The final solution is proposed to involve a recurrence relation that incorporates the delta function for cases when k equals j.
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hi,
i am trying to evaluate the following
<br /> A=\sum_{m=-N}^{N} \cos(\frac{mk\pi}{N+1})\cos(\frac{mj\pi}{N+1})

to give you an idea of the sort of answer i am after i present to you the following
<br /> \sum_{m=-N}^{N} \sin(\frac{mk\pi}{N+1})\sin(\frac{mj\pi}{N+1})=(N+1)\delta_{k,j}

hopefully there are some knowledgeable people that can shed some light on the matter
thanks.

i come up with the following
A=2N+1 if k=j=0
A=N if k=j, k not equal to 0
A=1 if (k+j) is even
A=-1 if (k+j) is odd
but i am not sure how to get this into one nice function so to speak like the example i gave above
 
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The statements you have at the end can't all be true. k + j is always either even or odd, but A is not always -1 or 1.

Since the example is so similar to what you have, you may be able to use trigonometric identities to write your problem in terms of sums in the example form and sums that you know. For example
cos x cos y = sin x sin y + cos (x + y), so if you can sum the case when j or k = 0, you can find A.
 
In fact, summing cos(x + y) is in a standard form for a recurrence relation. You have
(with \theta = \frac{(k + j) \pi}{N+1})
a_n = a_{n-1}+2cos(\theta n)
And a_0 = 1
The homogenous solution to this is of the form C_0, and the particular solution is of the form C_1 sin(\theta n) + C_2 cos(\theta n)
So the solution to your whole problem, N, is
(N+1)\delta_{k,j} + a_N
 
Here is a little puzzle from the book 100 Geometric Games by Pierre Berloquin. The side of a small square is one meter long and the side of a larger square one and a half meters long. One vertex of the large square is at the center of the small square. The side of the large square cuts two sides of the small square into one- third parts and two-thirds parts. What is the area where the squares overlap?

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