Generalizing separation technique

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In summary, the conversation discusses the possibility of using the separation technique to solve the equation y'(x) = A(x)y(x), where A(x) is a linear operator and y(x) is a vector. It is noted that this method can be generalized to give an explicit formula for the solution y(x), but it is not practical to use in most cases. Instead, it is used to prove existence and uniqueness of the solution. The conversation also discusses the idea of using iterations to find the solution, but it is not clear how to do this with integrals.
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[tex]
\left[\begin{array}{c}
y'_1(x) \\ \vdots \\ y'_n(x) \\
\end{array}\right]
=
\left[\begin{array}{ccc}
f_{11}(y) & \cdots & f_{1n}(y) \\
\vdots & & \vdots \\
f_{n1}(y) & \cdots & f_{nn}(y) \\
\end{array}\right]
\left[\begin{array}{c}
g_1(x) \\ \vdots \\ g_n(x) \\
\end{array}\right]
[/tex]

If n=1, then this can be solved with the separation technique. Suppose n>1 and that [itex]f[/itex] is invertible. Could the separation technique be generalized to give some explicit formula for solution y(x)? I tried without success. Anyone dealt with problems like this ever?
 
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As written I cannot say I do not know what y on the right hand side means.

If you mean, or have use for
[tex]\left[\begin{array}{c}y'_1(x) \\ \vdots \\ y'_n(x) \\\end{array}\right]=\left[\begin{array}{ccc}f_{11}(x) & \cdots & f_{1n}(x) \\\vdots & & \vdots \\f_{n1}(x) & \cdots & f_{nn}(x) \\\end{array}\right]\left[\begin{array}{c}y_1(x) \\ \vdots \\ y_n(x) \\\end{array}\right][/tex]

Then yes this is called the method of Peano-Baker.
A good reference is Ince Ordinary differential equations.
The idea is
y'=Ay
A and y being functions of x
A a linear operator y a vector
let I be integration say from 0 to x
suppose when x=0 y=c
y=c+IAy
y'=Ac+AIAy
y=c+IAc+IAIAy
y=c+IAc+IAIAc+IAIAIAy
leting the sum go to infinity we have a geometric series
y=((IA)^0+(IA)^1+(IA)^2+...)c
or
y={[(IA)^0-(IA)^1]^-1}c
we can prove this works.
It can be used in principle, but is more usefule to prove existence-uniqueness since it is highly impractical.
we may think of this as a generalization of
y'=Ay,A'=0,y(0)=c->y=exp(Ax)c
ie
y'=Ay,y(0)=c->y={[(IA)^0-(IA)^1]^-1}c
in both cases the "explicit" formula as written is not enough we often want to know more
 
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I see. The equation

[tex]
y'(x) = A(x)y(x)
[/tex]

is equivalent with

[tex]
y(x) = y(0) + \int\limits_0^x du\; A(u)y(u),
[/tex]

so the iteration attempt

[tex]
y_0(x) = y(0)
[/tex]

[tex]
y_{n+1}(x) = y(0) + \int\limits_0^x du\; A(u)y_n(u)
[/tex]

seems natural. If the iterations converge towards the solution, it follows that the solution is given by the series

[tex]
y(x) \;=\; \Big(1 \;+\; \int\limits_0^x du\; A(u) \;+\; \int\limits_0^x du\; \int\limits_0^u du'\; A(u)A(u') \;+\; \int\limits_0^x du\; \int\limits_0^u du'\; \int\limits_0^{u'} du''\; A(u) A(u') A(u'') \;+\; \cdots\Big)y(0).
[/tex]

But I didn't quite get the geometric series part. From equation

[tex]
S = 1 + q + q^2 + q^3 + \cdots
[/tex]

follows

[tex]
qS = q \;+\; q^2 \;+\; q^3 \;+\; \cdots = S - 1\quad\implies\quad S = \frac{1}{1-q},
[/tex]

but how do you do the same with the iterated integrals? If we define the time evolution operator to be

[tex]
U(x) \;=\; 1 \;+\; \int\limits_0^x du\; A(u) \;+\; \int\limits_0^x du\;\int\limits_0^u du'\; A(u) A(u') \;+\; \cdots,
[/tex]

then the calculation

[tex]
\int\limits_0^{x'} dx\; A(x)U(x) \;=\; \int\limits_0^{x'} dx\; A(x) \;+\; \int\limits_0^{x'} dx\;\int\limits_0^x du\; A(x) A(u) \;+\; \cdots \;=\; U(x') \;-\; 1
[/tex]

doesn't lead anywhere.
 
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