Prove equation in Green's function.

In summary: But I still do not understand how to show |u| and |∂h/∂n| are bounded near that point. Can you give me some hint or more detailed explanation?Sure, no problem. To show that |u| and |∂h/∂n| are bounded near (x0, y0), you can use the fact that u is continuous and h is harmonic. This means that both u and h have continuous derivatives, so they are both bounded on a small disk around (x0, y0). Therefore, their absolute values are also bounded on this disk. This means that |u| and |∂h/∂n| are both bounded near (x0,
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Homework Statement



Green's function [itex]G(x_0,y_0,x,y) =v(x_0,y_0,x,y) + h(x_0,y_0,x,y)[/itex] in a region [itex]\Omega \hbox { with boundary } \Gamma[/itex]. Also [itex]v(x_0,y_0,x,y) = -h(x_0,y_0,x,y)[/itex] on boundary [itex]\Gamma[/itex] and both [itex]v(x_0,y_0,x,y) \hbox { and }h(x_0,y_0,x,y)[/itex] are harmonic function in [itex]\Omega[/itex]

[tex]v=\frac{1}{2}ln[(x-x_0)^2 + (y-y_0)^2] [/tex]




Let u be continuous and h is harmonic on an open disk around [itex](x_0,y_0)[/itex] in [itex]\Omega [/itex]. Show that

[tex]_r\stackrel{lim}{\rightarrow}_0 \int_{C_r} u\frac{\partial h}{\partial n} ds = 0[/tex]

Hint from the book: Both |u| and [itex] |\frac{\partial h}{\partial n}|[/itex] are bounded near [itex](x_0,y_0)[/itex], say by M. If [itex] I_r[/itex] denotes the integral in question, then [itex] |I_r| \leq 2\pi M r \rightarrow 0 \hbox { as } r\rightarrow 0[/itex]

Homework Equations



Green's 1st identity:

[tex] \int _{\Omega} ( u\nabla^2 h + \nabla u \cdot \nabla h ) dx dy = \int_{\Gamma} u \frac{\partial h}{\partial n} ds[/tex]




The Attempt at a Solution



[tex] h=-v \hbox { on } \Gamma \Rightarrow\; \int _{\Omega} ( u\nabla^2 h + \nabla u \cdot \nabla h ) dx dy = -\int_{\Gamma} u \frac{\partial v}{\partial n} ds = -\int_{\Gamma} u \frac{1}{r} ds = -\int^{2\pi}_{0} u d\theta[/tex]

h is harmonic in [itex]\Omega\;\Rightarrow \nabla^2 h = 0[/itex]

[tex]\Rightarrow\; \int _{\Omega} \nabla u \cdot \nabla h \; dx dy = -\int^{2\pi}_{0} u d\theta[/tex]
I really don't know how to continue, please help.
 
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h = -v on Γ. You're not integrating over Γ; you're integrating around a small circle Cr around (x0, y0). You haven't said what h is, but by the hint, presumably ∂h/∂n is bounded on some disk centered at (x0, y0). This is certainly not true if h = -v on this disk, as ∂v/∂n = 1/r is not bounded. If h has no singularity at (x0, y0), then certainly ∂h/∂n is bounded on such a disk, as h has a continuous derivative (since by assumption h is harmonic).

Apply the hint.
 
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adriank said:
h = -v on Γ. You're not integrating over Γ; you're integrating around a small circle Cr around (x0, y0). You haven't said what h is, but by the hint, presumably ∂h/∂n is bounded on some disk centered at (x0, y0). This is certainly not true if h = -v on this disk, as ∂v/∂n = 1/r is not bounded. If h has no singularity at (x0, y0), then certainly ∂h/∂n is bounded on such a disk, as h has a continuous derivative (since by assumption h is harmonic).

Apply the hint.

Thanks for you help, let me try this:

Let u be continuous and h is harmonic on an open disk around [itex](x_0,y_0)[/itex] in [itex]\Omega [/itex]. Show that

[tex]_r\stackrel{lim}{\rightarrow}_0 \int_{C_r} u\frac{\partial h}{\partial n} ds = 0[/tex]

Hint from the book: Both |u| and [itex] |\frac{\partial h}{\partial n}|[/itex] are bounded near [itex](x_0,y_0)[/itex], say by M. If [itex] I_r[/itex] denotes the integral in question, then [itex] |I_r| \leq 2\pi M r \rightarrow 0 \hbox { as } r\rightarrow 0[/itex]

So [itex]|u| \hbox { and } |\frac{\partial h}{\partial n}|\; \leq\; M[/itex]. As [itex] (x,y)\rightarrow\;(x_0,y_0)[/itex]

[tex]_r\stackrel{lim}{\rightarrow}_0 \int_{C_r} u\frac{\partial h}{\partial n} ds = \;^+_- M^2\; \int^{2\pi}_{0} r\;d\theta \;=\; _r\stackrel{lim}{\rightarrow}_0 \; (2\pi M^2r) \;=\; 0[/tex]

I have [itex] M^2 \hbox { because } u\frac{\partial h}{\partial n} \leq M^2[/itex]
 
  • #4
Yes. Now you have to prove that both |u| and |∂h/∂n| are bounded near that point.
 
  • #5
adriank said:
Yes. Now you have to prove that both |u| and |∂h/∂n| are bounded near that point.

Thanks for your time. But I got M^2 instead of M. It does not matter because r goes to zero.
 

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