[Gravity in general relativity] I dont understand this help

In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of gravity and how it is explained through the warping of space-time. The video demonstration shows how objects are pulled towards each other due to their respective gravitational forces. This kind of visualization can be confusing and a better understanding of gravity can be gained by considering the time dimension and the four-dimensional nature of relativity.
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thetexan
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Please view the following...

http://www.wimp.com/visualizegravity/

This is the way scientists try to explain the warping of space to explain gravity effects between to objects.

The very demonstration requires gravity to work! Why does one object track along the displaced track to begin with? Because gravity is drawing it downhill into the dimple. The dimple does cause a curved track but something else is causing the object to move within the influence of the dimple...gravity.

Let's say we place two Earth sized planets in space at, say, 300000 km apart. No movement relative to each other. Space time is distorted but so what. What causes one object to begin to be moved thru the curved distortion?

I can visualize how the 'track' of an already moving object will be curved by distortions as it travels. But I don't understand what would cause a 'relatively' unmoving object to 'want' to begin to move toward another?

With the video, Earth's gravity is pulling down on the balls causing them to accelerate downward into the fabric depression caused by the other object. In other words, gravity itself is necessary to explain gravity. This kind of visualization only makes me more confused.

Perhaps someone can help.

tex
 
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thetexan said:
What causes one object to begin to be moved thru the curved distortion?
You have to include the time dimension to describe that:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdC0QN6f3G4

thetexan said:
This kind of visualization only makes me more confused.
Yes, it's a very bad way to explain General Relativity.
 
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thetexan said:
I can visualize how the 'track' of an already moving object will be curved by distortions as it travels. But I don't understand what would cause a 'relatively' unmoving object to 'want' to begin to move toward another?

Gravity warps space-time, not just space. You're always moving through space-time even when you're at rest because you're going to the future which means that you folow a line in space-time even when you're at rest that line is called the world-line. The warping of space-time forces the object that was initially at rest to start falling towards the Earth because that's the way it's world-line goes through the warped space-time. You have to keep in mind that relativity is a four-dimensional geometric theory.
 

FAQ: [Gravity in general relativity] I dont understand this help

What is the concept of gravity in general relativity?

In general relativity, gravity is not seen as a force between masses, but rather as a curvature of space and time caused by the presence of mass and energy. This means that objects with mass will cause a distortion in the fabric of space-time, which we perceive as the force of gravity.

How is gravity different in general relativity compared to Newton's theory of gravity?

In Newton's theory of gravity, gravity is seen as a force acting between two masses, where the strength of the force is directly proportional to the masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them. In general relativity, gravity is seen as a curvature of space and time caused by the presence of mass and energy, and the strength of the force is determined by the curvature of space-time.

Can you explain how gravity affects the motion of objects in general relativity?

In general relativity, the presence of mass and energy causes a distortion in the fabric of space and time. This distortion is what we perceive as the force of gravity. Objects with mass will follow straight paths in this curved space-time, which we observe as curved trajectories. The more massive the object, the greater the distortion and the stronger the force of gravity.

What is the role of space-time in general relativity and how does it relate to gravity?

In general relativity, space and time are not seen as separate entities, but rather as a single entity called space-time. This means that the curvature of space-time caused by the presence of mass and energy is what we perceive as the force of gravity. Without the concept of space-time, it would be impossible to fully understand and describe the effects of gravity.

Can you provide an example of how general relativity explains the phenomenon of gravity?

One example is the orbit of planets around the sun. In general relativity, the sun's mass causes a curvature in space-time, which the planets follow along their orbits. This explains why the planets do not fly off into space, as they are constantly following the curvature of space-time caused by the sun's mass. This is a more accurate and comprehensive explanation of gravity compared to Newton's theory, which only describes gravity as a force between masses.

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