Hey everyone, I am looking for either a resource or an answer to my question. Does anyone know of a way to gleam a NACA airfoil off of a 1A170E-JHA7660 propeller? I am trying to make a model of the prop in Solidworks for my Design Project. I know the 1A170 family of props is old as dirt and I...
I’m aware that this is a simple question to a very complex question. However, I’m curious as to how to calculate a lift coefficient simply using a 2 dimensional equation or a series of 2 dimensional equations, such as the NACA equations. I’m somewhat familiar with the lift line theory, but to be...
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when dealing with longitudinal stability calculations of an aircraft/airfoil we are considering all aerodynamic forces relevant to the generation of moment around the c.g.(lift) as acting at a point we call aerodynamic centre which is, by definition, a point where the pitching moment of...
NOTE: By "ideal", I mean incompressible & inviscid (the forum doesn't allow a long enough title).
I was looking at this Wikipedia article, and the graph of this function struck me as looking exactly like ideal fluid flow around an object.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambert_W_function...
A (displacement) boat hull has a design goal of making as little water resistance as possible with the required volume for load carrying capability. To achieve this the hull is given the shape similar to a vertical symetrical airfoil. But as the leading edge of a boat (it's bow) seems to be made...
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I have a simple question but I want to be 100% sure that my reasoning is correct. Take a look at this picture showing forces acting on an airfoil:
Green forces (X and Y components) are known from CFD software but I need the values of blue components (lift and drag). Of course for zero...
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I brought two high speed fan for magnetron cooling, and upon destroying one due to my mishandling of the stuff, I found out these fan have surprising nice airfoil. See the pictures and you will understand their construction.
The rotor part looks just like a normal air flow...
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My other post got deleted because it was flagged for spam, but it was just a link to a pdf. So I'm uploading the pdf instead.
I am working on a model to predict drag on airfoils in 2D potential flow (e.g. vortex panel methods). Currently, XFOIL uses a semi-empirical wake-momentum-thickness...
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is there an appropriate method to get the maximum lift coefficient (cl_max) of a wing from the polars of the section airfoils?
The background is that I cut a arbitrary wing into a certain number of sections. After that I use Xfoil to compute the local cl_max. Since this approach neglects...
What is the most elegant way of predicting drag on an airfoil in inviscid and incompressible flow? Or is this still an open problem?
It seems like the consensus for airfoils in incompressible and inviscid flow is that they cannot produce drag; or at least, we are not able to predict it...
I have collected velocity data for a 3-D grid of test section of a low speed wind tunnel.I have tested airfoils for pressure distribution in the same test section for similar free stream conditions. How do I calculate the impact of flow quality in the test section on the test results of pressure...
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I am trying to calculate the lift force and drag force in a wind tunnel at my school as a part of a project that i am doing. I am varying the length of the airfoils and trying to measure the lift force and drag force.
I have 3-d printed 7 airfoils. However, I am not able to find any...
Not really sure if this thread belongs here but I am supposed to figure out the radius of gyration, section modulus, and Q values at the neutral axis for this symmetric wing cross section. The only problem is that I am not even really sure how to find the area of the cross section. i know that...
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I have a question about the fact that there is no drag in the thin airfoil theory. I have read that it comes from inviscid and incompressible flow (potential flow) but what i can not understand is why there would be no drag from pressure differences ?
The skin drag is of course...
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Hi I am doing a project of designing and testing a wing in a wind tunnel, the wing is based a cessna 172 skyhawk wing and I am trying to determine what chord length it should be to try and replicate similar reynolds numbers that a cessna 172 wing would experience in real...
I was out and about today and observed a dog walker playing frisbee with their dog. I noticed the frisbee gliding gracefully through the air as the dog jumped to grab it, clutching the ring-like disc in its mouth.
It got me to thinking about airflow over the disc, the lift and drag properties...
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Hi everyone. Is an avocado technically an air foil? like if you cut an avocado in half, it wold be the right shape right? see and if so, would you leave the pit in or not? Why?
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I am pretty sure that they are. I am giving a...
I'm working with data across an airfoil and need some help.
We've got Kulite sensor data along 3 chord lengths of a certain NACA airfoil. The case is of an incompressible flow.
I need to determine the coefficient of pressure at these sensor locations using total pressure measured and I...
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I'd like to ask if some of you here can suggest a reference text concerning perturbation methods on thin airfoil? I'm using the text of Katz and Plotkin as well as Van Dyke but for now, I find it challenging to follow their discussion. I hope that finding a...
I played around with various parameters to air foils using Foilsim
http://www.grc.nasa.gov/WWW/k-12/airplane/foil3.html
What I found was that for a given wing length, a smaller chord gives a better lift/drag ratio. This will make the wing area small, hence the total lift will be small and there...
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Where can I find post stall airfoil data? I'm writing a numerical methods program and need lift coefficient data for airfoils at very high angles of attack. Books or websites would be great.
Thank you for any help
Hi was trying to figure out what would happen if you reversed the wing of a standard prop plane? for example...the thinner wedge is towards the front. Would you still get lift? I suppose not since there is a reason the rounded/thicker edge is facing towards the front. but why not?
Go easy on me I'm only 16 ;) I am utterly confused with the concept of "Airfoils", I have been doing some research on the web and so far all I have found is confusing descriptions that I do not understand and people arguing over which aerodynamics model for Airfoils is correct. The arguing and...
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I was doing my physics coursework, and blew a hairdryer at my makeshift aerofoil across distances of about 10cm and wind velocities of 8-11 m/s, then measured the lift off of a balance. I found they were proportional, exactly (!?), after doing some research I found drag is proportional...
I was reading this:
http://www.creatis.insa-lyon.fr/~dsarrut/bib/Archive/others/phys/www.mas.ncl.ac.uk/%257Esbrooks/book/nish.mit.edu/2006/Textbook/Nodes/chap06/node29.html
Under the first figure it states "Figure 6.20: The boundary layer at a stagnation point on an airfoil has a constant...
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Using Kelvin’s circulation theorem, find the qualitative and quantitative relation between the circulation around an airfoil and the circulation of the starting vortex.
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Kelvin's circulation theorem: DΓ/Dt=0
The Attempt at a Solution
I don't really know...
Hello, I am not an expert in aerospace engineering, merely a hobbyist so bear with my ignorance.
lately I have been thinking of creating my own propeller and variable pitch system using a CNC machine as a longer term goal. This desire arose due to the fact that there are no commercially...
I understand that when wind hits the blades straight on it spins for the same reason a pinwheel spins when you blow straight at it. But when wind is hitting the "cutting" parts of the blade how does air foil design help there? Wouldn't the lift generated by the air foil not matter since the...
Two problem to solve.
1) I have 4 propellers built with different airfoils. I have the graphs of coefficient of thrust and efficiency in function of advance ratio. There is a mathematical method to select which one is the best or the only way is just look at graphs
2)I know the maximum thrust...
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I am interested in roughly calculating the lift from an airfoil that has air circulating around its full circumference, (can be done by a treadmill skin but probably best done in practice by blowing air from slots around the entire circumference as seen in Fig.1)
As...
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If I have two spars running through an airfoil, which can be assumed to be two dimensional, which method would I use to find the stresses at the points where the spars are fixed? The loads would be lift and drag and what I need are the bending and shear stresses. Because I...
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Wells turbine is the subject of the my Thesis:
http://www.upload7.ir/imgs/2014-10/37346220310608280524.jpg
i make below model in gambit 2.4 ,But now I want to make the upper airfoil cord bigger than the bottom one.
below model is constant,attention to third pictures(...
Hey Everyone, so I have just started Aerodynamics and having completed a number of exercises I'm being asked to design an airfoil. I'm a bit outta my dept as I've transferred into this course from a diff field.
1. Homework Statement
To design an airfoil, using the knowledge you've acquired in...
For a given airfoil, the amount of lift and drag and thus the L/D ratio vary depending on it's angle towards the airflow.
In general, for small aircraft with a straight wing shape (I say so because that seems to be the simplest case since the airfoil shape will be constant throughout the...
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I read about airfoil mechanism that there happens to be pressure difference created above and below the airfoil which result in lift force.
My questions are:
1. What actually happens in the speed of air. I mean how can one side of the air travels with greater speed when they have the...
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I am looking for coordinates data for the airfoil NACA 64A416/4416 mod. This airfoil was used on the DeHavilland DHC-2 Beaver. While the airfoil is listed on various manufactures lists no data, or image, of the airfoil is available. Can you tell me whether there is a reason this...
I want a general idea of how much thrust an airfoil will produce at a set speed with a set shape
I would also like to know how much resistance it has in a set density gas
I know the math exists for liquids but wikipedia say that for gasses the math is to long and it thusly isn't shown there
I...
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I am in mechanical stream & am working on a project of VAWT of power 300 watt. I found a link where i can calculate power output for different parameter. Here's the link:
http://usvawt.com/cgi/windpower.cgi
where i took height as 2m and width as 3m.
Now need to design...
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I'm in the process of building an ultralight glider. (to be piloted by me)
As part of the construction process, I need to bend some aluminum tubing into an airfoil shape. This tubing will form the top of the wing. The bottom of the wing is flat.
The shape of this particular...
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In my Gas dynamics class we need to find the lift and drag coefficients of a supersonic airfoil (diamond shaped) for a range of AoA and Mach numbers. I can easily handle any situation where oblique shocks or Prandtl-Meyer expansions occur, but I'm unsure how to...
First, let me say I am not a engineering student but just a average person trying to get his pilots license and enjoy working with aerospace problems.
My problem is:
“An aircraft is flying at 150 mph. The atomspheric pressure is 14.1 lbs./sq in and the temperature is 50 degrees F. Find the...
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While I was learning about drag and lift on airfloils, I imagined a special airfoil which is fixed at a certain elevation and cannot move vertically (y axis) but can be rotated around its axis (z). Let's assume the direction of the flow to be the x axis.
I try to predict...
My question is kind of simple, does the calculus of variations find its way into the design of the shape of an airfoil?
I'm interested in what kind of mathematics gets used in basic airfoil design. I suspect the calculus of variations must be involved, but I know nothing about deriving the...
I have to conduct wind tunnel test on a naca0015 symmetric airfoil at different angles of attack and I am in search of a suitable mechanism to change the angle of attack of the airfoil.Please help.