Four momentum Definition and 24 Threads

  1. PLAGUE

    I Why "time part" represents energy in Four-momentum?

    I was going through Spacetime Physics by Taylor and Wheeler and came to a point where they said, and I quote, This part feels too abrupt for me and I am looking for a more elaborated explanation. Here is a link to that chapter.
  2. F

    De-excitation of a moving atom with photon emission

    The information I have are the following: ##p^\mu=(E, p, 0, 0)## ##p'^\mu=(E', p'\cos\beta, -p'\sin\beta,0)## ##k^\mu=\tilde{E}(1, \cos\alpha, \sin\alpha, 0)## Where: ##E=\sqrt{M^2+p^2}## ##E'=\sqrt{m^2+p'^2}## Using the conservation of the four-momentum ##p^\mu=p'^\mu+k^\mu##...
  3. B

    Gamma factor when doing four momentum problems

    So if i had this problem where i am squaring a four momentum vector with itself which gives P2 = (##\gamma mc## )2 - ##\gamma##2## m ##2##\vec v## *##\vec v## I have been told that the gamma factor is not considered at all. why would the gamma factor drop off? Does this rule apply to any...
  4. B

    Question on four momentum squared

    So i have taken a beginner course on relativity, first year physics student. I am confused as to why four momentum squared simply gives m2* c2*ϒ2 -(three vector multiplied and added with corresponding parts) *ϒ2 so as the three vector part which is being subtracted, is the same as - (P...
  5. K

    4 momentum mass non-conservation, special relativity

    Homework Statement A particle with mass M and speed v along the positive x-axis hits a stationary mass m. Two particles, each with mass µ, emerge from the collision, at angles with respect to the x-axis. (a) Write the equation for conservation of the 4-momenta, for arbitrary angles θ_1, θ_2 of...
  6. W

    B 4 four momentum energy component direction

    I have been reading about four momentum. There are four component vectors, three spatial, momentum, components and a time, energy, component. They each have a direction. I understand direction for the momentum components, being in the direction of the respective spatial components of the...
  7. C

    I De Broglie relation using four momentum in particle physics

    In particle phyisics four-momentum is used and De Broglie relation is used to understand what lenghts can be "seen" in an experiment. Here (page 6) https://people.phys.ethz.ch/~pheno/PPP/PPP2.pdf it is claimed Where ##Q^2## is not actually "momentum" but its the square of the four momentum...
  8. C

    Conservation of Four Momentum Problem

    This is not coursework, it is from a past paper (which we don’t have solutions for) and am doing preparation for this years exam. 1. Homework Statement Particle ##A## with energy ##E_A## hits particle ##B## (at rest), producing particles ##C## and ##D## in the reaction A+B \longrightarrow C...
  9. F

    Decay of a particle of mass M into two particles

    Homework Statement A particle of mass M and 4-moment P decays into two particles of masses m1 and m2 1) Find the total energy of each particle (lab frame). 2) Show that the kinetic energy T1 of the first particle in the same reference frame is given by $$T_1= \Delta M (1 - \frac{m_1}{M} -...
  10. bananabandana

    Link between 'time' component of 4-momentum and energy

    Homework Statement $$ E = -\vec{v_{obs}} \cdot \vec{p} $$ Where ## \vec{p} ## is the four momentum, and ## \vec{v_{obs}}## the velocity of the observer. Homework EquationsThe Attempt at a Solution [/B] This was a stated result in a GR course. I look through my SR notes and find that I...
  11. J

    Four momentum proton-proton scattering question

    Homework Statement In a fixed target experiment a particle of mass M and kinetic energy T strikes a stationary particle of mass M. By evaluating s, t and u in the laboratory frame and using the above relation, or otherwise, show that the kinetic energy T' of the particle scattered elastically...
  12. M

    Four Momentum in General Relativity

    Alright, I'm rather new to General Relativity, and I'm getting confused with four momentum. Back in SR, p^α=mU^α, but, this relationship doesn't hold in curved space, does it? Because, now I'm seeing that four momentum is somehow a covector in GR, and p_0=-E, so the time component of the...
  13. D

    Solving Relativistic Collision using Four Momentum Vector

    1. A particle of mass M decays from rest into two particles. One particle has mass m and the other particle is massless. The momentum of the massless particle is... 2. Ei = Ef, Pi= Pf 3. This is a GRE practice problem. I can solve this problem using the old method as listed in the step 2, but I...
  14. brainpushups

    Conservation of Four-Momentum in Inertial Frames

    Homework Statement a) Suppose that the total three-momentum of an isolated system is conserved in all inertial frames. Show that if this is true (which it is), then the fourth component of the total four-momentum has to be conserved as well. b) Using the zero-component theorem you can prove...
  15. V

    Conservation of four momentum question

    The question goes like this: Prove that conservation of four momentum forbids a reaction in which an electron and positron annihilate and produce a single photon(gamma ray). Prove that the production of two photons is not forbidden. The solution is to work in the centre of momentum frame. I...
  16. L

    Four momentum of fused particles

    Homework Statement two particles of masses m1 and m2 move at speeds u1, u2 respectively collide and fuse. If α is the angle between the two directions of motion before the collision, find an expression for the new mass m, in terms of m1 m2 u1 u2 and α Homework Equations Etot2 =...
  17. T

    Understanding the Four Momentum of a Photon in General Relativity

    Hi, I'm trying to reconcile some general relativity stuff and I'm getting confused on a few topics. Would someone be able to explain the properties of the four momentum of a photon? The way I understand it is that you take the four wave-vector of the photon and multiply it by \hbar. The four...
  18. L

    Conservation of Four-Momentum in Neutrino-Electron Collision

    Hi physics people, This is a past (3rd year university level) exam question, so I hope it's ok that I didn't post this in the homework section even if it's set out like a homework question. The Question: Suppose we are observing the collision Anti-electron-neutrino + electron ---> W-minus...
  19. N

    How can I express the force in Special Relativity using four momentum?

    Homework Statement To write the expression of force in STR \ F=\frac{dp}{dt}=\ m\gamma\ a +\ m\gamma\frac{\ u .\ a}{\ c^2 -\ u^2}\ u Here a is acceleration Homework Equations I used the equation \ p=\gamma\ m\ u I interpreted F as four force,p as four momentum, a as four-acceleration, u...
  20. T

    Four momentum vector from energy-momentum-tensor

    Hi, for a real scalar field one has the energy momentum tensor from Noethers theorem T^{\mu\nu} = \frac{\partial \mathcal{L}}{\partial \partial_\mu \phi} \partial^\nu \phi - \eta^{\mu\nu} \mathcal{L} and the conserved quantities P^\nu = \int d^3 x \ T^{0\nu} Now, how can one show that P...
  21. I

    Four momentum of Photon in Center of Mass frame?

    Hi, I have just been pondering the problem of electron - positron annihilation into a single photon in the CM frame. I was stuck at a discrepancy - that in the center of mass frame, the total momentum of the particles was zero, but the energy is the sum of the energies of the original...
  22. J

    Understanding the Four Momentum of a Relativistic Field

    Suppose that some relativistic field has energy density and momentum density. Integrating these, we get the total energy E and momentum p of the field. But does it make sense to call (E,p) a four momentum of the field? At quick glance it looks like it would be impossible to derive any...
  23. G

    Relativistic Energy and four momentum

    A particle of initial kinetic energy T0 and rest energy E0 strikes a like particle at rest. The initial particle is scattered at an agle theta to its original direction. Show that the final kinetic energy T is T = T0cos2(theta)/(1+ (T0sin2(theta)/2E0)) what I have so far: We know that...
  24. L

    Why Is the Fourth Component Necessary in Relativistic Momentum?

    I've been trying to see how relativity shows that the quantity gamma*m*c^2 (total energy) is conserved. I assumed that this would proceed from the conservation of momentum. So I researched momentum in relativity, and noticed that it has a time-component: gamma*m*c (which is E/c). So this...
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