Gravitation Definition and 918 Threads

  1. H

    Giveaway MTW's Gravitation

    Giveaway. https://www.amazon.com/Gravitation-Charles-W-Misner/dp/0691177791/?tag=pfamazon01-20
  2. someone_2156

    Ball revolving around a massive disc and a cube placed at centre

    I thought that the maximum force on the block in the x direction would be the point where the ball crosses the plane of center and thus frictional force would be maximum, and if the block does not slip in that case then it never will slip as the value of force in x direction only decreases...
  3. someone_2156

    Time taken for a planet to collide with the Sun

    TL;DR Summary: if a planet was suddenly stopped in its orbit, suppose to be circular, find how much time will it take in falling onto the sun(in terms of time period) I know that T=2pi (r^3/GM)^1/2 and a=GM/x^2 how to proceed further
  4. R

    Determining the energy radiated by gravitational waves in a simple system

    I have tried simplifying the integral (turning into an integral in terms of position variables) using the equation of motion. It's easy to show: $$\frac{1}{x^4}=\frac{(\ddot{x})^2}{(GM)^2} $$ And therefore one can write: $$\frac{1}{(GM)^2}\int_{t=0}^{t_f} (\dot{x}\ddot{x})^2 dt =...
  5. KnightTheConqueror

    B Inertial Mass vs Gravitational Mass

    Why does the text saying that the Newton's framework doesn't require the two masses to be equal? If using f = ma give us inertial mass then how is f = Gm1m2/r² a different things? Isn't the law defined as the force is directionly proportional to the product of the masses and we calculated the...
  6. M

    B Gravitational Time Dilation Inside the Sun

    How can time dilation, lets say 500000 km inside the sun be calculated ?
  7. H

    I Gravitation In Higher Dimensions

    It is assumed that gravitation in n dimensions would follow an approximate 1/d^(n-1) law. In our 3D world the attraction of a uniformly dense sphere is the same as if all the mass were concentrated at its center. I have read for n>3 this is not so. I want to find out what the result would...
  8. Quantum Psi Inverted

    Gravitation Potential Energy -- Questions about calculating the sign of GPE

    I believe that this is due to context of application, but now, I'm starting to doubt myself. For example, a helicopter lifting itself has positive PE change. I really don't intuitively understand how this works. Can someone kindly explain this to me?
  9. robphy

    I Gravitation (MTW) Misner Thorne Wheeler - 50 years (RIP) C.W.Misner

    From the International Society on General Relativity and Gravitation (http://www.isgrg.org/) there were some 50-year anniversary celebrations and a 100th birthday celebration: This post is primarily about items related to "Gravitation" by Misner Thorne Wheeler. Go to ISGRG to see a 50-year...
  10. S

    I More extended equilibrium configurations due to dark energy?

    Dark Energy puts a constrain on the size of overdensities (like clusters and superclusters of galaxies) and their growth. A higher Dark Energy density would reduce the radius of the zone where matter would be gravitationally bound, because more Dark Energy density would mean that objects would...
  11. SacCno

    B Help Scaling Gravity Simulation

    I'm trying to make a 2D game on Unity similar to Universe Sandbox 2. I currently am working with a star and planet, both with roughly the masses of the sun and earth respectively for comparison and at a distance of 31,000,000km. My current model uses Newton's formula for gravitational force (F...
  12. Hak

    B How quickly does the Earth feel the effects of a halved Sun's mass?

    I have a doubt about gravitation. Suppose the mass of the Sun halves in an instant, after how long does the Earth ''notice'' it? That is, does the gravitational force also decrease instantaneously? Instinctively I would say yes, but I don't understand why it should be so. If, for example, we...
  13. S

    B Can Jupiter gravitationally eject a pebble in orbit? A smaller mass?

    Is there a limit to the smallness for a larger mass to eject? Can a planet eject a grain in orbit, or even a lone atom in orbit?
  14. hasibx

    Gravitational Forces on three masses at the corners of an equilateral triangle

    I solved the math using vector rule R= \sqrt{F^2 +F^2 +2F^2cos\frac{\pi}{3}} =\sqrt{3}\frac{Gm^2}{a^2} But the answer is showing: \sqrt{3}\frac{Gm^2}{a^2} (-\hat{j}) My question is: Why is (-\hat{j}) added here? Why is it negative?
  15. L

    I I need some support, please, for a gravity assist analysis

    I am having a discussion with a couple of very obtuse individuals on another forum who think they know celestial mechanics, but do not. These two have long promoted themselves to be something they are not, and since I am rather new on the forum they are unwilling to even listen (or heaven...
  16. Dogya

    Hubble Constant: Force Acting on Hydrogen Atom Due to Expansion of Universe

    TL;DR Summary: Express through the Hubble constant the force that acts on the hydrogen atom due to the expansion of the universe We have a hydrogen atom, in a gravitationally bound system nothing interesting happens to it. Let's put it in an empty world with only an electron and a proton...
  17. S

    B Does Gravitation Start at Black Hole Event Horizon?

    Has anyone done this calculation? It seems to me that if light and time disappear at the event horizon, it's a gravitation limit as well.
  18. H

    I Which does more work: gravitation or electromagnetism?

    1: There is a universal gravitational force between two 1 kg iron balls, and the energy generated by their mutual attraction is so small that it is difficult to observe; there is also an attractive force between a 1 kg neodymium magnet and 1 kg of iron, but the energy generated by their...
  19. amazofntheab

    Find the work from Newton's law of gravitation

    What I did was just sub in the numbers and convert km to m. So (6.67E-10)(1000)(5.98E24)/(1,000,000+6.37E6)^2 * (1,000,000+6.37E6) So it's just (6.67E-10)(1000)(5.98E24)/(1,000,000+6.37E6). I thought this was a straightforward problem, but it seems that it is not. What am I missing?
  20. doudou

    B Explaining Distant Time Dilation & Enhanced Gravitation

    When we observe distant time dilation effects, usually indicated by redshift, there are three possible explanations: 1) The speed of light, is slower there and then; 2) Space, is contracted for light there and then; 3) The frequency, of specific light is slower there and then. However, it is...
  21. brotherbobby

    The gravitating of a small mass towards a big mass

    Diagram : I draw a picture of the problem situation and paste it to the right. Attempt : Let me assume that the position of the smaller mass ##m## at a given instant of time ##t## is ##x(t)##. (1) Gravitational potential energy ##\frac{GMm}{x} = \frac{1}{2}mv^2(x)##, where ##v(x)## is the...
  22. S

    I Gravitation Machine Invented? Research Idea

    First, please excuse my english first, Does anyone know who already had invented or built such a machine ?, which it can float in air by gravitation change (It can also be move up and down and move back and forth by manipulate and changes gravity force inside the machine. I have an idea but...
  23. Sciencemaster

    I Calculating Spacetime Around Multiple Objects

    In describing the spacetime around a massive, spherical object, one would use the Schwarzschild Metric. What metric would instead be used to describe the spacetime around multiple massive bodies? Say, for example, you want to calculate the Gravitational Time Dilation experienced by a rocket ship...
  24. B

    A Why is Tau-AB^2 not t^2 + x^2?

    why is Tau-AB^2 equal to t^2 - x^2 ?It seems it should be t^2 + x^2 according to the geometry of the diagram...
  25. M

    B Proof of inverse square law for gravitation?

    Newton arrived at "there is a force that drives a planet around the star by examining kepler's laws but how did he arrive to inverse square law by kepler's third law (##T^2=\frac {4\pi r^3}{GM}##)? Thank you.
  26. O

    I Does gravitational energy travel like electrical energy?

    Electrons flowing through a resistor are dissipating electrical energy. The electrical energy is transported from the battery to the electrons along the curved field lines of the Poynting vector. It seems like a meaningful idea that electrical energy necessarily travels from the source to the...
  27. paige turner

    I Exploring the Retarded Wave Solution of Maxwell's Equations for Gravitation

    Supposedly, the retarded wave solution to Maxwell's equations applies to gravitation as well as electrodynamics. The space station doesn't fly off into the distance because every object in the universe (at whatever distance) focuses gravity through the mass of the station. Every object on the...
  28. marcosdb

    I Jefimenko's Theory of Gravitation: Continued Discussion

    This is a continuation of this post, which has been closed to replies: I am also really curious to better understand Jefimenko's theory of gravitation; I have the book, which apparently is no longer available on amazon, and I updated the wikipedia page to include his generalized gravitation...
  29. B

    Question on the Newtonian displacement of light

    Hi everyone! Hope your day is going well. I’m an ex-physics student who recently wanted to go back to studying the subject (as a hobby, mostly). So I picked up Zee’s GR book since GR is the thing I’m the most interested in. I expected to hit a wall on some basic things since I’m rusty, and did...
  30. MrS

    I Open channel flow: derive function for energy slope on friction?

    I want to determine the normal flow depth in a perfectly horizontal circular conduit. The system characteristics are known (Internal pipe diameter, Mannings roughness, Discharge). However, I am not sure how to calculate the normal flow depth. When using Manning's equation one can find the normal...
  31. S

    Inverse square law of gravitation and force between two spheres

    I recently encountered this problem on a test where the solution for the above problem was given as follows: $$F= \frac{Gm_1m_2} {r^2} $$ (1) but $$ m=\frac{4}{3}\pi R^3 $$ substituting in equation (1) $$F= \frac{{G(\frac{4}{3}\pi R^3\rho})^2 }{2R^2} $$ where r=radii of the two spheres m=mass...
  32. E

    A Can Einstein Tensor be the Product of Two 4-Vectors?

    In Gravitation by Misner, Thorne and Wheeler (p.139), stress-energy tensor for a single type of particles with uniform mass m and uniform momentum p (and E = p2 +m2) ½ ) can be written as a product of two 4-vectors,T(E,p) = (E,p)×(E,p)/[V(E2 – p2 )½ ] Since Einstein equation is G = 8πGT, I am...
  33. cianfa72

    B Basic introduction to gravitation as curved spacetime

    Hi, my daughter saw my MTW copy on the desk and she asked me about the picture with the apple in front. To introduce her to the idea of gravitation as curved spacetime I answered like this: Consider you (A) and a your friend (B) at two different spots on a garden each with a firecracker. Take...
  34. ronald_hinh

    I Time Dilation: Gravitational & Velocity Effects Explained

    I'm trying to understand what the time dilation looks like when moving through space and then approaching a planet's gravity field. So I have the broad understanding that if you are moving near the speed of light in a spaceship, your clock ticks normal but the clocks on other stationary objects...
  35. Anmoldeep

    Expanding explosion from an Asteroid

    An asteroid of mass M explodes into a spherical homogenous cloud in free space. Due to energy received by the explosion, the cloud expands and the expansion is spherically symmetric. At an instant, when the radius of the cloud is R, all of its particles on the surface are observed receding...
  36. R

    MTW Gravitation Electronic Notebook

    I would like to exercise the formulations in the book. I have read Gravitation and many others but I need to do more exercises. I get very bogged down in writing out the symbols. Are there electronic solutions for writing and exercising these equations? I have used Mathcad to perform...
  37. GeniVasc

    I Wavelength of Light Ray Affected by Gravity

    I was reading Einstein's 1911 paper named "On the Influence of Gravitation on the Propagation of Light" when stated the formula for frequencies measured by observers at different fixed positions (heights) on Earth surface. One observer is at the origin of some coordinate system and measures a...
  38. ohwilleke

    I Scope of General Relativity: Assumptions & Implications

    Assumptions 1. General Relativity is the modern and most complete widely accepted theory of gravitation, formulated in a background independent, geometric way. 2. General Relativity is formulated in a manner consistent with Special Relativity and I could imagine that it might be possible to...
  39. dextercioby

    A Wiesendanger's quantization of an SO(1,3) extension of GR

    Are you aware of the 3-article series of Wiesendanger's quantized extension of GR? This is open access: C Wiesendanger 2019 Class. Quantum Grav. 36 065015 and the two sequels linked to in the PDF. The question is if this work counts as a quantization of a reasonable extension or reformulation...
  40. S

    Calculation of orbital velocity -- Geometrical solution

    Hello, I would like to calculate the orbital velocity using the geometrical way of reasoning. But I have a hard time to understand and apply some basics into my calculations. The reasoning is pretty simple. After some time: dt ,the particle travels the distance: Vtot1 * dt = R*sinθ (see the...
  41. E

    A Non-Linear Theory: Summation Meaningful in Einstein Gravitation?

    In the famous book, Gravitation, by Misner, Thorne and Wheeler, it talks about the stress-energy tensor of a swarm of particles (p.138). The total stress-energy is summed up from all categories of particles. Is summation meaningful in the non-linear theory of Einstein gravitation? Thanks.
  42. momoneedsphysicshelp

    Gravity and Orbital Velocity: Understanding a Common Misconception

    I need help with understanding this problem. I had initially chosen B, that the two satellites had the same speed because the mass does not effect the velocities of each of the satellites considering they are in orbit. But that answer was marked incorrect by my instructor. What other answer...
  43. P

    Calculating Tidal Range (Gravitation)

    Consider only the Earth-Moon system, where both the Earth and Moon are spheres. A horizontal line joins the centres of the Earth and Moon. Consider a point P that lies on the surface of the Earth. The line joining P and the centre of the Earth meets the horizontal line joining the centres of the...
  44. O

    B Gravitational force between two masses

    Hello everyone. Probably this question is trivial, but nevertheless I am confused about Newtons law of motion: $$F=G\frac{m_1m_2}{r^2}$$ Now, some sources say, that F is the force between the two masses m1 and m2. Other sources say, that F is the force that m1 exhibits on m2. But isn’t this a...
  45. P

    Conservation of energy in Gravitation

    Suppose a rocket is moving at radial velocity vr and tangential velocity vt in the Sun's gravitational field. At some time, the rocket enters the gravitational field of Mars (with the above mentioned velocities), and gravitation effects due to the Sun can be ignored. After more time, the rocket...
  46. PainterGuy

    Newton's law of gravitation -- Limitations and Improvements

    Hi, I was reading Wikipedia article on Newton's Law of Gravitation and I couldn't make sense of the following section. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton's_law_of_universal_gravitation#Limitations How could the improved law of gravitation be written? Like as shown below? Thank you...
  47. Alain De Vos

    I Change law of gravitation to remove dark energy and dark matter

    The speed of star on the outer of are solar system is not according to the visible mass. Change the law of gravitation F = 1/r^2 to fix this. Galaxies far away are moving away with increasing speed. Change the law of gravitation F = 1/r^2 to fix this, include a repulsive force to fix. Would this...
  48. L

    I Charged Particle Free Fall in Grav Field: Does Anyone Know Answer?

    From one point of view the charged particle is accelerating and should emit electromagnetic waves. But from the equivalence principle, I think, it should not. Does anybody know the answer?
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