Inertial reference frame Definition and 41 Threads

In classical physics and special relativity, an inertial frame of reference is a frame of reference that is not undergoing acceleration. In an inertial frame of reference, a physical object with zero net force acting on it moves with a constant velocity (which might be zero)—or, equivalently, it is a frame of reference in which Newton's first law of motion holds. An inertial frame of reference can be defined in analytical terms as a frame of reference that describes time and space homogeneously, isotropically, and in a time-independent manner. Conceptually, the physics of a system in an inertial frame have no causes external to the system. An inertial frame of reference may also be called an inertial reference frame, inertial frame, Galilean reference frame, or inertial space.All inertial frames are in a state of constant, rectilinear motion with respect to one another; an accelerometer moving with any of them would detect zero acceleration. Measurements in one inertial frame can be converted to measurements in another by a simple transformation (the Galilean transformation in Newtonian physics and the Lorentz transformation in special relativity). In general relativity, in any region small enough for the curvature of spacetime and tidal forces to be negligible, one can find a set of inertial frames that approximately describe that region.In a non-inertial reference frame in classical physics and special relativity, the physics of a system vary depending on the acceleration of that frame with respect to an inertial frame, and the usual physical forces must be supplemented by fictitious forces. In contrast, systems in general relativity don't have external causes, because of the principle of geodesic motion. In classical physics, for example, a ball dropped towards the ground does not go exactly straight down because the Earth is rotating, which means the frame of reference of an observer on Earth is not inertial. The physics must account for the Coriolis effect—in this case thought of as a force—to predict the horizontal motion. Another example of such a fictitious force associated with rotating reference frames is the centrifugal effect, or centrifugal force.

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    Kinetic energy in center of mass reference frame

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  2. U

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  3. xkcda

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  4. MD LAT 1492

    I Relative Motion & Local Frame’s Position - when projecting components

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  5. Ashshahril

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  6. cianfa72

    I Reference frame vs coordinate chart

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  7. Like Tony Stark

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  8. H

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  9. Pencilvester

    I Locally inertial reference frame problem

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  10. J

    Position of particle in inertial reference frame

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  11. Swag ranger

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  12. S

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  13. J

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    B Distinguishing inertial reference frames

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  16. B

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  17. 0

    Invariance of Acceleration in Inertial Reference Frames

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  18. R

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  19. S

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  20. A

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  21. M

    What exactly is an inertial reference frame?

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    Can Earth be considered an inertial reference frame?

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  23. S

    Can inertial reference frame have different sizes at least in theory?

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  24. Telemachus

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  25. S

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  26. L

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  27. B

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  28. M

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  29. Z

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  30. R

    A sliding puck analyzed from an inertial reference frame

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  31. B

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    Well, in principle, this problem seems very easy but I don't know the exact explanation.Here we go. We have a truck and a pack in its back.The bed of the truck is frictionless and the pack is stopped by a small piece of wood of something like that. The size of the pack is whatever(for...
  32. A

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  33. B

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  34. B

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  35. H

    Defining Inertial Reference Frames in General Relativity

    How can you have an inertial reference frame in which a body can remain at rest or move with constant velocity unless you postulate the disappearance of the universe? In the Michelson Morley experiment the Earth is not moving with constant velocity, it is accelerating. So the postulates of...
  36. K

    Newton's Laws and Inertial Reference Frames

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  37. O

    How Do Moving Frames Affect the Observation of a Puck's Path?

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  38. L

    Possible webpage title: Defining Inertial Reference Frames in Classical Physics

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  39. L

    Basis for the postulate that all physics is the same for all inertial reference frame

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  40. T

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  41. T

    On The Definition Of An Inertial Reference Frame

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