Kepler Definition and 121 Threads

  1. M

    I Galaxies as systems extended from the solar system

    Is it a big assumption that Galaxies should follow Kepler's third law with rotation speeds decreasing with distance from the centre. Is the small tet of the behaviour of the Solar System not too small an example to make such a substantial assumption? Thanks Martyn
  2. kirito

    Using Kepler's laws to calculate elliptical planetary motion

    TL;DR Summary: orbital speed laws I would appreciate a bit of explanation on how did we find e1 and e2 and if there are any useful references to learn about Kepler laws since I am lost for the most part, and would like to gain understanding and solving ability ,and if you can go into some...
  3. LuisBabboni

    I Kepler´s 2nd law -- Do any two planets sweep out equal area in equal time?

    I mean. For example, Earth in one month sweep the same area* than Jupiter in one month? *The line joining the Earth with the Sun than the line joining Jupiter with the Sun. I think yes, but is not what 2nd law says. I think in the fact that the aceleration just depends on the distance to the...
  4. F

    Tusi discovering laws of planetary motion before Kepler?

    I was reading about the Tusi couple and read it "as a solution for the latitudinal motion of the inferior planets, and later used extensively as a substitute for the equant". Since the Tusi couple is related to plotting out an ellipse, did Nasir al-Din al-Tusi already discover the laws for...
  5. jaumzaum

    I Kepler orbits for planets of similar masses

    When we use the third Kepler law to calculate the period, distance and velocity of the Earth, we consider that the Sun is fixed. We know this is not true, because the Sun is also attracted by the Earth. I was wondering, how could we use Kepler laws to calculate the period, distance and velocity...
  6. jaumzaum

    I Does the electrical force also respect the Kepler Laws?

    I was wondering if the electrical force, which is a radial force that depends on the inverse of the distance squared, also respect the Three Kepler Laws? If so, what will the constant for the third law be?
  7. juardilag

    Help with a modified Kepler potential

    I have tried to solve the problem through the use of a rotating reference frame, since I should have as a solution an orbit given by the Kepler potential, but I haven't come up with anything. Any ideas ?
  8. K

    Kepler problem in parabolic coordinates

    I solve (1). But to solve (2), What should be the suitable separation constants? I am so confused... E=2/(m*(a+b)) * (a*(dWa/da)^2+b*(dWb/db)^2-k)+l^2/(2mab) where l(constant) is pc since c is cyclic. What should I do to solve the problem?
  9. E

    Action variables for the Kepler problem

    Let's consider the Hamiltonian $$H = \frac{1}{2m} p_r^2 + \frac{1}{2mr^2} p_{\phi}^2 - \frac{k}{r}$$where the generalised momenta are here ##p_r = m\dot{r}## and ##p_{\phi} = mr^2 \dot{\phi}## conjugate to the coordinates ##r## and ##\phi##. Since ##p_{\phi}## does not depend on ##\phi## it can...
  10. W

    I Which version of the Kepler Problem is correct?

    On one hand: wiki - Kepler Problem - There doesn't seem to be a clear statement of what the problem is. There is a section on the solution which is given as a function u(θ) where u = 1/r. In Classical Dynamics, Thornton, et. al., the section on Planetary motion - Kepler's Problem - "The...
  11. Sabertooth

    Expressing Elliptic Orbitals As Speed Functions.

    Hi everyone:) I have spend a couple of days trying to teach myself the math of orbital mechanics and have been able to generate a model of the orbital path of Haley's Comet, incorporating realistic distances and periods using Kepler's second law & ellipsoid functions. This is a GIF of the motion...
  12. K

    Calculating Angular Diameter of an Orbit Using Kepler's Law

    I am confused because the question implies that I need to do some sort of calculation with Kepler's law. I got ##r+d = \sqrt[3]{\frac{T^2 GM}{4 \pi^2} } ## But don't understand why I need this, since I already have the distance and the angular diameter should be ##\arctan (2R/d)## I think I...
  13. J

    MATLAB Writing a matlab program to solve the Kepler Problem (Universal Vars)

    Introduction: I am writing a Matlab program that solves the Kepler problem for any Elliptical, Hyperbolic, or Circular orbit. Given an initial position vector, velocity vector, find the position vector and velocity vector after some given time. I am not doing this for any class, I have been...
  14. DuckAmuck

    I Elliptical Orbit and Kepler's equation

    It is easy to find that the equation for an ellipse is: $$1 = x^2/a^2 + y^2/b^2$$ Then according to Kepler's equation: $$x = a(\cos(E)-e)$$ $$y = b\sin(E)$$ where E is the eccentric anomaly and e is the eccentricity. If you plug the Kepler's equations' x and y into the equation for the ellipse...
  15. frostysh

    I with understanding Kepler's second law

    I have a lot of questions as usually, but must begin with the difficult to understand moment which have started my explorations of the Kepler's second law. In the book of Steven Wainberg "To Explain The World", in the technical paragraph twenty one I have found the next formula which represents...
  16. Athenian

    [SR] - Test Particle inside the Sun's Gravitational Field - Part 3

    Below, I have already solved - I assume - correctly for question 1. Question 2, I am nearing to what I believe is the solution. Question 3, I simply have no idea where I should begin considering that it is interconnected with question 2. With that said, below is the lengthy and somewhat tedious...
  17. Gumbrain

    I Help With Simple Orbital Modeling

    I have yet to decide on values for the mass of the fixed object, M, the mass of the moving celestial body, m, the initial velocity, v, and the distance between the two objects, r. I will most definitely decide on a larger mass M because I would like the celestial body to spiral in towards the...
  18. K

    Closest approach from initial velocity and impact parameter

    Here were my assumptions: Energy and angular momentum are both conserved because the only force acting here is a central force. The initial angular momentum of this particle is ##L = mv_0b## and we can treat E as a constant in the homework equation given above. I solved for the KE (1/2 mv^2) in...
  19. Clara Chung

    Question about the Kepler equation

    Homework Statement Homework Equations 1/r = a/b2 * (1+e cosθ) The Attempt at a Solution How do you derive 7.27? I tried to substitute r in the orbit equation by (acosψ - ae) / cosθ and got (cos ψ - e)/cosθ*(1+e cosθ)=b^2/a^2 I don't know what to do next. Please help, thank you.
  20. barryj

    Calculating the period of a low Earth satelite using Kepler

    Homework Statement Find the period of a low Earth orbiting satellite using Kepler Laws earth radius = 6.38E6 meters T^2/R^3 for Earth = 2.97E-19 (sec^2/m^3) Homework Equations 2.97E-19 = T^2/(6.38E6)^3 T^2 = (2.97E-19)(6.38^6)^3 = 77.1 T = 8.72 sec The Attempt at a Solution This is not...
  21. Bob Jones

    How to get tangential velocity

    I am in the process of making a program that visually shows an elliptical orbit over time. I wish to find the tangential velocity of the satellite in the elliptical orbit based on the variables that I know. Here is what I know: a) The angle relative to the right focus with 0 radians being the...
  22. I

    Kepler's Second Law with Angular Momentum

    Homework Statement I am working on the derivation of Kepler's Second Law based on torque and angular momentum. I understand that the vector "L" is equal to the mass (m) times the cross product of the vector "r" and the vector "v." The source I am following then states that L = mrvtheta. I do...
  23. I

    I Data Model of Kepler's Second Law of Planetary Motion

    Hello, I am completing a research project for differential equations class. I am to derive Kepler's three laws and then compare the results of the derivation with real-world data. For Kepler's second law (a planet sweeps out an equal area in an equal time), I was hoping to find orbital data for...
  24. mfb

    I New Kepler results (8th planet around Kepler-90)

    Announcement Vanderburg works on various stuff, with a focus on more recent data (K2 mission). Jessie Dotson works on K2 data and seems to be a contact person for external users working with Kepler data. Christopher Shallue https://www.linkedin.com/in/cshallue/. Based on the panel, I have no...
  25. S

    Stargazing Impact of Kepler Telescope Findings on the Drake Equation

    How much more refined are the various variables of the Drake Equation in view of the recent findings by the Kepler Telescope? I imagine fp and ne would surely be better estimates. Is there a study on this anywhere?
  26. A

    B Telescope and Stopwatch for the Mass of a Planet

    I was wondering if it is possible to use only a stopwatch and a telescope to find the mass of a planet, such as Saturn. I've experimented with a couple of things but I keep running into problems. I previously asked this question in the homework section, but it does not involve numbers, is not...
  27. A

    What Are the Correct Units for Kepler's Third Law?

    I am confused about the units used in Kepler's 3rd law. Is T supposed to be in years or days? Is R supposed to be in kilometers or meters? Is there ever an instance where one combination of units is preferable over another (for example, if you want to use the answers from Kepler's third law to...
  28. G

    B Can Kepler Data and Machine Learning Discover Habitable Exoplanets?

    hello everyone anyone knows if this research is made? imagine you have available the data from the kepler telescope to search exoplanet, create a training set of data based on the concept of find exo planet , calculate their orbit and try to design the virtual exo solar sistem , understand the...
  29. T

    Satellite Motion Homework: Find 2nd Satellite Speed

    Homework Statement A satellite is in a circular orbit around an unknown planet. The satellite has a speed of 1.70 × 104 m/s, and the radius of the orbit is 5.25 × 106 m. A second satellite also has a circular orbit around this same planet. The orbit of this second satellite has a radius of...
  30. M

    B Kepler's 3rd Law, geometric relationship?

    Hello, quick question here I am studying mathematical astronomy / the history of , and I have noted that by raising the average sidereal period of any planet in our solar system, to the power .666666, that you are left with the average distance of that planet from the Sun, in AU I was told...
  31. G

    How to find Kepler's law from Newton's laws

    We were asked to do an experiment where we had to prove the equation: T2=(4π2m)/Mgr Where M is the mass of the mass stack in kg (0.3kg), m is the mass of the rubber bung in kg (0.0226kg), T is the time taken for one rotation in seconds, r is the horizontal radius of rotation in meters, and g is...
  32. V

    I Can the Kepler Problem be Solved for Bodies with Spin?

    Hello I'm wondering, what is difference in trajectory or period or...something if I try to compare solution of Kepler problem for point bodies and "rigid" bodies with spins. More precisely is some easy way how to include a spin of bodies to this problem? Or this procedure for describing of such...
  33. J

    B Hot Jupiters & Kepler's Laws: Does it Violate?

    Do hot Jupiter's violate Kepler's laws?
  34. J

    Closed trajectories for Kepler with spin-orbit corrections?

    Kepler problem explains closed elliptic trajectories for planetary systems or in Bohr's classical atomic model - let say two approximately point objects, the central one has practically fixed position, they attract through 1/r^2 Newton's or Coulomb force. Kind of the best motivated expansion we...
  35. S

    I Kepler 3rd law for circular orbits

    Hello! I am a bit confused about Kepler 3rd law for circular orbits. So assume you have 2 bodies of masses M>m orbiting in circles around their center of mass. As the center of mass passes through the line connecting them, they must have the same period. But according to Kepler's 3rd law, this...
  36. G

    Hamiltonian formulation and the Kepler problem

    This isn't exactly homework, but something which you'd get as an assignment, so I'll still post it here in order to reach the right people.. I'm attempting to freshen up my knowledge on Hamiltonian systems, so I've tried to formulate the Kepler problem in Hamiltonian dynamics...
  37. B

    Stargazing Kepler Telescope Views Single Point in Space 4.2ly Away

    Astronomers are viewing a single point in space (.1 arcseconds), using the Kepler space telescope but to view a planet 4.2 light years from the Earth that would require a planet with a diameter of more than ten times the diameter of our solar system.
  38. J

    I Spacecraft Launches: Perigee & Apogee - Why Terminate?

    why spacecraft launches are usually terminated at either perigee or apogee?
  39. Just144Ice

    Find Density Given Period of Orbit

    Homework Statement A satellite is in a circular orbit very close to the surface of a spherical planet. The period of the orbit is 2.53 hours. What is the density of the planet? Assume that the planet has a uniform density. Homework Equations T^2=(4pi^2r^3)/GM V=4/3piR^3 Density= Mass/...
  40. B

    Lagrangian Mechanics - Kepler problem, Conservation

    Homework Statement Attached. Homework Equations I am assuming the coordinate transformation is \vec{x}' = \vec{x} + \alpha\vec{\gamma} ? Then you have \vec{v}' = \vec{v} + \alpha\frac{d\vec{\gamma}}{dt} And r is the magnitude of the x vector. The Attempt at a Solution Part A. So to get the...
  41. K

    Orbital Perturbations: Solving for Equations of Motion in Elliptical Orbits

    Homework Statement Say I have some planet in a circular orbit around a star, and I give it a small radial push (directly toward or directly away from the star). How would I describe the new orbit? I.e. how would I determine the equations of motion? h Homework Equations Kepler orbital radius...
  42. EnumaElish

    CERN discovers new economics particle

    @Evo is this your blog (evonomics)? ;-P Economists Discover Quasi-Equlibriated Economic Sub-Particle The problem economists have explaining the financial crash By Steve Keen CERN has just announced the discovery of a new particle, called the “FERIR”. This is not a fundamental particle of...
  43. mfb

    NASA NASA: 1284 more planets from Kepler

    Source: NASA to Announce Latest Kepler Discoveries During Media Teleconference Livestream Time conversion reference: this post was posted at 7:45 pm EDT. My guess: various roughly Earth-sized exoplanets around dwarf stars, probably at least one in the habitable zone. Edit: More than 1000...
  44. 1oldman2

    B Kepler Telescope Running in Safe Mode

    Just noticed the Kepler telescope is running in "safe mode" burning precious fuel very quickly. Could be the end of the show for K-2 if they don't come up with a workaround soon. If anyone hears of progress regarding the problem could they please mention it here? Thanks:smile...
  45. RoboNerd

    Quick Question on Kepler & angular momentum conservation

    Homework Statement Homework Equations I guess kepler's law but most importantly conservation of angular momentum are key here. The Attempt at a Solution [/B] I put down E as the answer, but the solutions have D as the correct answer. Why is this the case? Thanks in advance for the help!
  46. caters

    Writing: Input Wanted Exploring Morphing Powers in Kepler Bb: Wilderness Survival Grade

    In my Kepler Bb story, some of the humanoids that go to school, in fact a lot of them, have some kind of morphing power. Here is an example of what a typical grade in Wilderness Survival class(which is weighted especially on females since when they are looking for a husband they either stay...
  47. W

    How far would a planet be from the Earth, when its....

    Homework Statement How far would be a planet from the earth, when its period would be 2 years? T = 2 years/730 days a = 150*106km Homework Equations a3/T2 = C (C is the Kepler-Constant) The Attempt at a Solution I tried inserting T in days and years, but I always get a wrong solution, since C...
  48. **Mariam**

    Kepler's laws, universal gravitation mcq doubt

    Homework Statement http://[url=http://postimg.org/image/f7e6kp0xv/][PLAIN]http://s21.postimg.org/f7e6kp0xv/image.jpg Homework Equations Kepler's laws The Attempt at a Solution I thought the answer will be C : I and II But the solution written (it was my friends book) is B, which is correct?
  49. caters

    Is Kepler Bb's Unique Solar System the Most Complex in the Universe?

    Solar system: Double binary star(2 binary stars in a quadruple star system) Kepler A: A big blue star. It is bigger than all the other stars in the double binary system. It will however last longer than our sun just like the other 3 stars will. Kepler B: This is a green star(The green star...
  50. 450AHX

    How can I generate an elliptical orbit using only position and velocity data?

    Hi. I'm writing a simulation of (an approximation of) the solar system. So far I've been able to translate the Wikipedia article on Kepler's laws to a function that uses a description of an elliptical orbit (eccentricity, periapsis, known position in time) to return a position when passed an...
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