Lorentz transformation Definition and 382 Threads

  1. binbagsss

    A Show Lagrangian is invariant under a Lorentz transformation without using generators

    This is probably a stupid question but, I want to show that a Lagrangian written in field theory is Lorentz invariant WITHOUT using the Lorentz transformation representation / generators. I know we know that a Lorentz scalar is automatically Lorentz invariant, but, I want to show this by...
  2. murshiddreamengineer

    I Proof of Lorentz transformation

    What are the supporting arguments for the assumption that space and time are homogeneous?
  3. PhysicsEnjoyer31415

    B How to intuitively understand the formula S² = x² - c²t²

    I am on Chapter one and have not yet reached this formula yet but i wanted to know in advance because i was a bit curious Also i noticed it written as (c²t²- x² ) in some places while (x² - c²t²) in some places ,is there a difference?
  4. C

    I Question about full Lorentz transformation

    Hello everyone, I recently have learned about space time intervals and how these intervals between two events are invariant across all inertial frames and this can be proven by using the full Lorentz transformation. I wanted to learn more about the full Lorentz transformation and I read the...
  5. Immer Tzaddi

    I Lorentz Transformation: Premises + Derivation

    Recollections of a late Spring semester's lesson describing the derivation of Lorentz's Transformation often solicit many unanswered questions. The textbook used has been secured; however, it is unknown. Whether, that secondary school instructor provided the premises used for the derivation from...
  6. jaketodd

    B Transfer speeds of forces affected by time dilation?

    Are forces subject to the Lorentz transformation? Not force carriers; I already got that question answered, thanks to @PeterDonis. But forces. The different forms of them, such as the contact forces etc.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_force With time dilation, does the rate of force...
  7. BadgerBadger92

    I Difference Between Lorentz Transformation & Special Relativity

    Sorry for the extra question. Just have a lot of questions lately and I know some people around here are annoyed with that.
  8. S

    B Lorentz Transformation of Electric & Magnetic Fields Visualized

    I made a tool for calculating and visualizing how the electric and magnetic fields transform under a Lorentz boost. Thought I'd share it here, in case anyone finds it interesting. https://em-transforms.vercel.app/
  9. Sagittarius A-Star

    I Only Minkowski or Galilei from Commutative Velocity Composition

    The LT can be derived from the first postulate of SR, assuming linearity an that velocity composition is commutative, and that GT can be excluded: ##t' \neq t##. Definition of the constant velocity ##v##: ##x' = 0 \Rightarrow x-vt=0\ \ \ \ \ \ ##(1) With assumed linearity follows for the...
  10. A

    A What assumptions underly the Lorentz transformation?

    The Lorentz transform for velocities is as follows: $$u=\frac{v+w}{1+\frac{vw}{c^{2}}}$$ But which assumption exactly underlies this so that you get exactly this formula and not any other formula with approximately the same properties?
  11. Samama Fahim

    I Deriving Lorentz Transformations: Hyperbolic Functions

    While deriving Lorentz transformation equations, my professor assumes the following: As ##\beta \rightarrow 1,## $$-c^2t^2 + x^2 = k$$ approaches 0. That is, ##-c^2t^2 + x^2 = 0.## But the equation of the hyperbola is preserved in all inertial frames of reference. Why would ##-c^2t^2 + x^2##...
  12. Hamiltonian

    B Confusion in notation of Lorentz Transformations

    ##\bar{\mathcal{O}}## is moving with a velocity ##v## relative to ##\mathcal{O}## along ##x^{1}## The Lorentz transformations between a Frame ##\mathcal{O}## and ##\bar{\mathcal{O}}## is given by: $$\Delta x^{\bar{0}} = \gamma\left(\Delta x^0 - v\Delta x^1\right)$$ $$\Delta x^{\bar{1}} =...
  13. R3ap3r42

    Lorentz Transformation - Speeds relative to different observers

    Two spaceships are heading towards each other on a collision course. The following facts are all as measured by an observer on Earth: spaceship 1 has speed 0.74c, spaceship 2 has speed 0.62c, spaceship 1 is 60 m in length. Event 1 is a measurement of the position of spaceship 1 and Event 2 is a...
  14. R3ap3r42

    Special relativity and Lorentz Transformation Exercise

    Summary:: Special relativity and Lorentz Transformations - I got this problem from a first-semester course at university. I have been struggling for a few days and decided to get some help. A rocket sets out from x = x' = 0 at t = t' = 0 and moves with speed u in the negative x'-direction, as...
  15. M

    B Measuring Light Velocity Correctly: Thought Experiment

    Let there be a track 450,000 km long and a rocket 300,000 km long with a laser attached to the bottom of it's back end with a clock beside it, and a second synchronized clock attached to bottom of its front end. Both clocks were also synchronized with a track clock while the rocket was parked...
  16. alan123hk

    B Special Relativity & Lorentz Transformation Q: Clock C2 Reading?

    I believe this does not belong to the homework category. I hope I won't be mistaken. I am reading a book to self-study special relativity, the following is an example mentioned in the book. When clock C' and clock C1 meet at times t'=t1=0, both clocks read zero. The Observer in reference frame...
  17. alan123hk

    B How to derive the Lorentz transformation in the simplest way?

    Is there the simplest, direct, and easy-to-understand method that only needs to apply the most basic algebra and logic to completely and strictly derive the Lorentz transformation? Thanks for your help.
  18. S

    B Is length contraction (Lorentz transformation) an illusion or real?

    My textbook (from first year university physics) says that length contraction is actually real. But how can it be real when two different observers can measure two different lengths? For example, if I am in a spaceship going close to the speed of light relative to people on Earth, they will...
  19. K

    I Assumption in the derivation of the Lorentz transformation

    In the special theory of relativity, it seems impossible to derive the lorentz transformation without assuming that the lorentz factor is independent of the sign of the relative velocity. For some reason, I can't get my head around why this assumption is so easily made, as if it's trivial. Can...
  20. PainterGuy

    Lorentz transformation of electron motion

    Hi, It's not homework but I still thought I better post it here. Please have a look on the attachment. For hi-resolution copy, please use this link: https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img922/7840/CL6Ceq.jpg I think in equations labelled "12", 'e' is electric charge and Ex is the amplitude of...
  21. abrogard

    B Shankar on Lorentz Transformation: Does x' = ct'?

    On the Yale University Prof Shankar Youtube vid 'Lorentz Transformation' Prof Shankar writes up on the board that x = ct and then x prime = c t prime. It is the basis of all that follows. But i don't understand. at x = 0, t = 0 and x prime = 0 and t prime = 0. He's got that written up...
  22. A

    I Finite Lorentz Transformation via Poisson Bracket

    Let me define ##L_{x;v}## as the operator that produce a Lorentz boost in the ##x##-direction with a speed of ##v##. This operator acts on the components of the 4-position as follows $$L_{x;v}(x) =\gamma_{v}(x-vt),$$ $$L_{x;v}(y) =y,$$ $$L_{x;v}(z) =z,$$ $$L_{x;v}(t)...
  23. A

    I General Generator of Lorentz Transformation in Hamiltonian Formalism

    In the Hamiltonian formalism, the space-time transformation are realized via canonical transformation, and the transformations are generated by Poisson brackets of certain functions of phase-space variables. In Newtonian mechanics, Galilean boosts are generated by the sometimes called dynamic...
  24. cianfa72

    I Does Lorentz invariance imply Einstein's synchronization convention?

    Hi, I've read a number of posts here on PF about Einstein's clock synchronization convention. In the context of SR we know the transformation law between inertial frame's coordinates is actually the Lorentz one. The invariant speed for Lorentz transformation is c (actually it coincides with...
  25. Glenn Rowe

    I Lorentz Transforms of Electromagnetic Fields

    The Lorentz transformations of electric and magnetic fields (as given, for example in Wikipedia) are $$ \begin{align*} \bar{\boldsymbol{E}}_{\parallel} & =\boldsymbol{E}_{\parallel}\\ \bar{\boldsymbol{E}}_{\perp} &...
  26. Haorong Wu

    I Lorentz transformation for derivatives

    Hello again. I am sorry I got another problem when learning QFT regarding the Lorentz transformation of derivatives. In David Tong's notes, he says I am not sure how to transform the partial derivatives. Explicitly, should ##\frac {\partial} {\partial x ^{\mu}}## transform to ##\frac...
  27. R

    I Derive Lorentz Transformation by Visualizing Space-Time Coordinates

    This approach is seeming intuitive to me as I can visualize what's going on at each step and there's not much complex math. But I'm not sure if I'm on the right track or if I'm making some mistakes. Here it is: ##A## has set up a space-time co-ordinate system with some arbitrary event along his...
  28. JD_PM

    Series expansion of the Lorentz Transformation

    a) I think I got this one (I have to thank samalkhaiat and PeroK for helping me with the training in LTs :) ) $$\eta_{\mu\nu}\Big(\delta^{\mu}_{\rho} + \epsilon^{\mu}_{ \ \ \rho} +\frac{1}{2!} \epsilon^{\mu}_{ \ \ \lambda}\epsilon^{\lambda}_{ \ \ \rho}+ \ ...\Big)\Big(\delta^{\nu}_{\sigma} +...
  29. JD_PM

    I Proving Lorentz Transformation identities

    This exercise was proposed by samalkhaiat here Given the defining property of Lorentz transformation \eta_{\mu\nu}\Lambda^{\mu}{}_{\rho}\Lambda^{\nu}{}_{\sigma} = \eta_{\rho \sigma}, prove the following identities (i) \ (\Lambda k) \cdot (\Lambda x) = k \cdot x (ii) \ p \cdot...
  30. Garlic

    I Lorentz transformation of the "bilinear spinor matrixelement"

    Dear reader, there is a physics problem where I couldn't understand what the solutions. It is about the lorentz transformation of a bilinear spinor matrix element thing. So the blue colored equation signs are the parts which I couldn't figure out how. There must be some steps in between which...
  31. S

    Lorentz transformation for an approaching observer

    I think this should be t'= Lorentz factor* (1+v/c)t, but that doesn't make sense to me.
  32. David Lewis

    B Interpreting Lorentz Transformation Rotations

    Are Lorentz transforms actual "rotations" in the commonly understood sense, or a non-intuitive formal mathematical operation?
  33. HaoBoJiang

    A LT & Translation Symmetry: Problem Analysis

    As we all know, for the reference frame S' and S of relative motion, according to Lorentz transformation, we can get As we all know, for the reference frame S' and S of relative motion, according to Lorentz transformation, we can get As we all know, for the reference frame S' and S of relative...
  34. jk22

    A Lorentz Transformation Derivation Question

    I wanted to make a derivation of the Lorentz transformation : $$x'=Ax+Bt\\t'=Dx+Et$$ The conservation of the quadratic form ##c^2t'^2-x'^2## yields the equations: $$A^2-B^2/c^2=1\\D^2-E^2/c^2=-1/c^2\\AD=BE/c^2$$ Hence ##B=c\sqrt{E^2-1}##,##D=\sqrt{E^2-1}/c##,##A=\pm E##. The speed of the...
  35. BadgerBadger92

    I Special Relativity vs Lorentz Transformation: Difference Explained

    What is the difference between special relativity and the Lorentz transformation? Aren't they basically the same thing? Also, I was wondering what about matter makes spacetime curve?
  36. L

    A Lorentz Transformations: Why We Need the Same $\gamma$

    If we have motion of system ##S'## relative to system ##S## in direction of ##x,x'## axes, Lorentz transformation suppose that observers in the two system measure different times ##t## and ##t'##. x'=\gamma(x-ut) x=\gamma(x'+ut') Why we need to use the same ##\gamma## in both relations? Why not...
  37. Q

    Checking the Lorentz transformation

    Homework Statement: This seemed at first glance very easy. But there appeared some confusion. A is moving to the right with velocity v with respect to B. The proper time for A is ##t_a=t_b\sqrt{1-v^2/c^2}##. And B is moving to the right with velocity u with respect to C. Proper time for B...
  38. Athenian

    [Special Relativity] Lorentz Transformation and Boosts

    [BEGINNGING NOTICE] Before I begin showing my attempted solution, I would just like to quickly mention that this is a "repost" of the same question I had around a week ago. While I would usually use the "reply" function on the same thread, I believe that thread is getting pretty messy (sometimes...
  39. Athenian

    [Special Relativity] Scalar Invariant under a Lorentz-transformation

    "My" Attempted Solution To begin, please note that a lot - if not all - of the "solution" is largely based off of @eranreches's solution from the following website: https://physics.stackexchange.com/questions/369352/scalar-invariance-under-lorentz-transformation. With that said, below is my...
  40. U

    How Can We Generalize the Lorentz Transformation to Two Dimensions?

    Summary: The problem is to generalize the Lorentz transformation to two dimensions. Relevant Equations Lorentz Transformation along the positive x-axis: $$ \begin{pmatrix} \bar{x^0} \\ \bar{x^1} \\ \bar{x^2} \\ \bar{x^3} \\ \end{pmatrix} = \begin{pmatrix} \gamma & -\gamma \beta & 0 & 0 \\...
  41. M

    Special Relativity question using Lorentz Transformation time dilation

    with distance between planets as 4x10^8m measured by you on the ship My attempt: t' = γ(t - ux/c^2) γ = 5/3 u = 0.8c t = 0.9s x = 4x10^8m answer is: -0.278 Therefore not possible My question is what if we traveled rightwards, from p2 to p1, would the answer change? Should my above information...
  42. Athenian

    [University Special Relativity] Lorentz Transformation and Boosts

    Unfortunately, I am not entirely confident of the above equations being able to do the trick and ultimately solve for the question. However, my guess is that using the equation written above for "boost", I could perhaps use ##v## and insert it into the ##x##-direction part of the matrix...
  43. A

    Lorentz transformation of 4-acceleration

    I have been getting back to studying physics after a long break and decided to go through the problems in Rindler. But there is something I don't quite understand in this problem. To first answer the second part, Exercise II(12), I wrote $$\frac{du_2}{dt} = \frac{du_2}{du_2^\prime}...
  44. M

    A Why does this term transform in this way?

    I am trying to understand the last block of equations in the picture (after 3.31). In the first line of that block, he transforms the spinor ##\psi## which I have no problem with. What I have a problem with is the ##\gamma ^{\mu} \partial _{\mu}##. They form a Lorentz scalar, so they should not...
  45. chaksome

    I Lorentz transformation for 3 frames (2 dimensions)

    I want to know why an else solution can not get the right answer. And want to know the way to correct this solution.Supposed that a frame S'' is moving in the lab frame at ##\beta_x## in the x-direction, ##\beta_y## in the y-direction, now I want to find out the Lorentz transformation between...
  46. arnau

    I Lorentz transformation for 3 frames

    A particle is moving in the lab frame ##S'## at ##\beta'_z##. I want to transform coordinates and momenta of the particle to a frame ##S## moving at ##\beta_0##. At time ##t = t' = 0##: $$z = \frac{z'} { \gamma_0 (1 - \beta'_z \beta_0) },\, \gamma\beta_z = \gamma_0 ( \gamma'\beta'_z -...
  47. D

    I Lorentz transformation of derivative and vector field

    I'm currently watching lecture videos on QFT by David Tong. He is going over lorentz invariance and classical field theory. In his lecture notes he has, $$(\partial_\mu\phi)(x) \rightarrow (\Lambda^{-1})^\nu_\mu(\partial_\nu \phi)(y)$$, where ##y = \Lambda^{-1}x##. He mentions he uses active...
  48. E

    A Applying General Lorentz Boost to Multipartite Quantum State

    I would like to apply a General Lorentz Boost to some Multi-partite Quantum State. I have read several papers (like this) on the theory of boosting quantum states, but I have a hard time applying this theory to concrete examples. Let us take a ##|\Phi^+\rangle## Bell State as an example, and...
  49. jk22

    B Deriving Lorentz Transformation: Wave Eq Invariance & General Relativity

    I read the Lorentz transformation can be obtained by solving the requirement of invariance of the wave equation. If one considers linear transformations this the same as the spacetime interval squared to be invariant. What are the other nonlinear transformations keeping the wave equation...
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