sagnac Definition and 18 Threads

  1. KDP

    I Sagnac gyroscope affected by linear acceleration?

    As some of you know I have been coding a 2+1D relativistic simulator that can handle (constant proper) acceleration in any direction on a plane. So far it is going quite well. I have now decided to simulate a Sagnac gyroscope inside the simulation by sending signals in opposite directions...
  2. alexandrinushka

    B Sagnac effect for matter beams

    Hello, I have recently come across this article by Rizzi and Ruggiero, called "The Relativistic Sagnac Effect: Two Derivations": https://arxiv.org/pdf/gr-qc/0305084.pdf In section 3, the authors derive the Sagnac proper time difference for all beams (light beams and matter beams, including...
  3. Jim Fern

    I Explaining Sagnac vs. SRT Violation & Reconciling Lorentz Transform

    Can someone please explain how a Sagnac ring laser gyro or fiber-optic gyro seems to violate SRT, since the second postulate of SRT holds that the speed of light does not vary in vacuum regardless of the position or motion of any observer (in this case, receivers)? And how is it even possible to...
  4. Erik Ayer

    I Two Photon Sagnac Source

    In this paper, Cramer references a Sagnac source and mentions it has a half wave plate to vary the entangement vs. coherence by rotating the plate. Look just below figure 1: https://arxiv.org/pdf/1409.5098.pdf What is this setup? My guess is that the half wave plate is right before the...
  5. Hepper

    I Is the Sagnac Effect a Relativistic Phenomenon?

    Wikipedia explains the Sagnac effect as a result of the rotating disk, which moves the target so that one of the light beams has farther to travel and consequently, will arrive later than the other light beam which goes around the disc in the same angular direction as the rotating disc. However...
  6. D

    Minimizing Specular Reflections in a Sagnac based Fiber Gyro

    My project is to build an airspeed flowmeter using the design of a signac fiber optic based gyro. There is a group that has already accomplished this task (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18301479), however they used a commercial fiber gyroscope whereas I am trying to build the entire setup...
  7. MattRob

    The Sagnac Effect: Exploring Length Contraction with a Thought Experiment

    So, I've been reading on GR and I've come across this. Awhile ago I read a smaller book on relativity that ended with a neat thought experiment: take a disk, lay out the circumference with many small rods, and start spinning it at relativistic speeds. Because of SR length contraction, each of...
  8. D

    Sagnac Effect on Equatorial Plane: MG-P Exp & GR Twist

    If one were to send two light beams around the equator east and west, would the Sagnac effect occur? I know Michelson-Gale-Pearson measured it, but in their experiment the two beams would each travel both directions in separate rectangles, so I wonder if the effect would be weaker/stronger. How...
  9. WannabeNewton

    Does the Sagnac Effect Indicate Rotation in Non-Rotating Gyroscope Frames?

    As you may already know, given a time-like congruence describing some extended body with world-tube ##\mu## embedded in space-time, there are various different characterizations of what it means for this extended body to be non-rotating. Of particular interest for me is the setting of...
  10. C

    MMX and the earth's rotational sagnac

    MMX proves light is isotropic in all directions. Hand held GPS units apply the Earth rotational sagnac correction which means light is not isotropic in all directions at the unit from the satellites. If a hand held GPS unit is placed at the same location as an MMX experiment, one...
  11. K

    Sagnac Effect and Special Relativity

    http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s2-07/2-07.htm Today I met a man who was claiming that the Sagnac effect, particularly in the case of light moving in a circular pattern with a rotating observing "arm" as in the first figure in the link, is contrary to special relativity. He claimed that since...
  12. H

    Current Sagnac Effect Theory: PF Viewpoint

    In the view of PF posters, what is the "current" [meaning most accepted] theory explaining the Sagnac effect? I have heard of something called Klauber's NTO [Non-Time-Orthogonality] theory and am wondering if it is "accepted"? -Harry Wertmuller
  13. O

    Understanding the Sagnac Effect in GPS Systems: Explained

    I've read that the GPS system has to take into account the Sagnac effect when sending signals from the satellites to the Earth. For those of us who are unfamiliar with the Sagnac effect, it is the delay in receiving(or shorter time in receiving) the signal due to the rotation of the Earth while...
  14. N

    How Does the Sagnac Effect Cause Interference Patterns in a Rotating System?

    I'm having trouble understanding the Sagnac Effect. So far all I know is that a ring cavity is formed where 2 beams travel in opposite directions. My question is: Why do the 2 beams form an interference pattern if the entire cavity is rotating at some angular velocity?
  15. T

    GR, SR and the Sagnac effect question

    I've read in multiple locations that GR is necessary to properly explain a co-rotating perspective/observer of the experiment. Additionally, SR can explain the experience of non-inertial observer. The above two statements seem somewhat conflicting and leads to my question. Why is it that...
  16. T

    Linear vs Sagnac: Examining Arrival Time Differences

    Okay I've got a question about the difference between the sagnac effect in an inertial and non-inertial environment. Let me give you an example to base the info off of. I want to make a really long linear sagnac-like arrangement to factor out any cross propagation. In the following example...
  17. MathematicalPhysicist

    What Causes the Sagnac Effect and How to Calculate Reduction in Light Intensity?

    in this webpage: http://www.mathpages.com/rr/s2-07/2-07.htm we have an explanation to the saganc effect and in page 2 and 3 i got stumbled: i can't get to the quadratic equation in page 3 i.e: [c^2-R^2*w^2*cos(theta)]*T^2+-[2R^2*w*sin(theta)]*T-2R^2[1-cos(thata)]=0 from this...
  18. B

    Explaining Sagnac Experiment: Einstein & Constant Velocity of Light

    Is there anyone here that can explain this phenomena using Einsteins postulat that the velocity of light is constant? I haven't found any explanation to the phenomena on the Internet.
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