Sr Definition and 480 Threads

  1. curiousburke

    I Muon travel distance vs Atmosphere Thickness?

    I'm having a discussion with a friend/family member about a paper by Radwan Kassir in which he calculates the distance traveled by a muon (atmosphere thickness) in a non-standard way that shows the atmosphere thickness in the muons frame (L') is γ times the atmosphere thickness in the Earth...
  2. Islam Hassan

    B Is Time Defined by Relative Motion in SR and GR?

    We only measure time via the relative movement of a standard, agreed reference, a clock for example. If we replaced all instances of "time" in the formulation of SR and GR by "relative motion [ie, of an agreed reference]", would SR/GR remain correct/consistent? Or does SR/GR rely on a deeper...
  3. Ibix

    B What is the Experimental Basis of Special Relativity?

    The Experimental basis of SR FAQ (https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/faq-experimental-basis-of-special-relativity.229034/) no longer seems to be stickied at the top of this forum. Perhaps five stickies would be too many, in which case I think it's worth adding to the FAQ list...
  4. U

    I SR vs GR: Logical Necessity of Signal Propagation

    I guess it is safe to say that SR is, mathematically speaking, a framework that correlates discrete events in spacetime by way of a universal constant (the speed of light) so that the "proper distances" that separate them may be determined. I think this means that every conceivable "instant...
  5. bigmike94

    How much SR is needed for Purcell and Morin?

    TL;DR Summary: How much special relativity Is needed for Edward M. Purcell & David J. Morin It clearly is needed to fully understand this book and I have what seems like a good book that introduces relativity (A.P. French) But I am not wanting to start it yet and it’s around 300 pages long...
  6. Trysse

    B Historic question regarding SR and c*t

    This is a historical question regarding SR. Has any physicist before EInstein multiplied the time coordinate with the speed of light? If yes who was it? What is a good book or paper that discusses why and how Einstein (or others before him) have come up with the idea to multiply c and t? When...
  7. Orodruin

    Relativity Exploring Relativity and Field Theory in Intermediate Level Textbook

    I am reshaping my course on special relativity (master level intermediate relativity course, I am getting it back after having the GR course instead for a number of years) and I find myself wanting to include two things: - A more geometrical approach to Minkowski space. - Basic classical...
  8. alexandrinushka

    B Differences in Predictions between SR and LR?

    SR interpreted as having no absolute frame of reference and an absolute frame type version of SR, where the speed of light is isotropic only in one undetectable frame are considered equivalent, since they use the same math. But here is a scenario in which I don't see how the physical predictions...
  9. malawi_glenn

    (Introductory SR) Light sent from a spaceship received by Earth

    I am taking a summer course on special relativity and I stumbled across this problem and solution which I tought look neat. However, I think the solution provided for a) there is wrong. I will here present two of my solutions for a) and one solution for b) and ask if you think mine are okay? :)...
  10. lindberg

    I Shape Dynamics: How Can It Offer Same Predictions as GR & SR?

    Developers of Shape Dynamics (as Julian Barbour and Tim Koslowski) claim that Shape Dynamics will offer in most cases the same predictions as GR, and implicitly as SR. How can this possibly be true, since they get rid of time altogether and thus of any notion of simultaneity? How would they get...
  11. A

    I Deriving Special Relativity from Particle Indistinguishability

    Is it possible to derive special relativity from the principle of quantum mechanics according to which particles of the same type are indistinguishable? For example, if it is not possible to distinguish particles of the same type then particles colliding in a train at constant speed should...
  12. E

    I Precausality and continuity in 1-postulate derivations of SR

    [Moderator's note: Thread spun off from previous one due to topic shift.] Please forgive my ignorance, I've never studied group theory systematically up to now, so I'm not aware of all the concepts and symbols that have been used up to now. Yet, I'm interested in the derivation of the Lorentz...
  13. Orodruin

    A Teaching SR without simultaneity

    This thread, some earlier ones, and my signature got me thinking a bit about whether it would be a good idea to de-emphasize simultaneity when teaching SR since it is a frame dependent concept. I did not do much thinking myself yet but would like to hear people’s opinions and thoughts on how...
  14. P

    I SR "Paradox" Thread Continuation: Tilt of Plates & Simultaneity

    The thread: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/question-about-a-stronger-relativity-paradox-than-the-twin-paradox.1009978/ proposed an interesting SR scenario. The thread could have led to instructive discussion of exactly how relativity of simultaneity resolved a "false paradox" that...
  15. LCSphysicist

    Wrong sign in my answer, why? SR + Addition of velocity....

    Adopt the speed of light equals one. Calls ##cos = c##, ##sin = s## $$ux' = \frac{v-uc}{1-uvc}$$ $$uy' = \frac{us}{\gamma(1-uvc)}$$ $$tan \theta' = uy' / ux' = \frac{us}{\gamma(v-uc)}$$ So that's basically my solution. The problem is: The answer is ##\frac{us}{\gamma(v+uc)}##. Now, i can't...
  16. LCSphysicist

    Charge density seen from a moving reference frame S' (SR + EM)

    There are some question involving the statement. One of them is about the charge density in S' frame. It asks to calc it. I thought that i could calculate the electric field in the referencial frame S' and, then, use the formula $$ E = \lambda / 2 \pi \epsilon l $$ In that way, i would obtain...
  17. funnyman634

    I Can I get a clarification on my misunderstanding of SR?

    When I think of the speed of light being constant for all reference frames, I imagined the scenario in the picture below to exemplify it. Object A is always at rest, object B is moving at half the speed of light along the only given axis, and object C is a light particle moving at the speed of...
  18. L

    I Relativistic Force & Velocity Relation to Acceleration

    According to this link here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relativistic_mechanics#Force , we can inverse the relation of force in terms of velocity and acceleration: $$ \mathbf{F} = \frac{m\gamma^3}{c^2}(\mathbf{v} \cdot \mathbf{a})\mathbf{v} + m\gamma\mathbf{a} $$ to get: $$ \mathbf{a} =...
  19. Hamiltonian

    Relativity Advanced Theoretical Physics: a book on SR & GR for Undergrad Students?

    I recently came across a book called advanced theoretical physics -nick lucid. chap6 covers tensors and chap 7&8 cover SR&GR. I have studied a bit of SR before but never GR. At this point in life I don't want to read huge books on the subject. this book covers relativity entirely in three...
  20. Paige_Turner

    B Need to Check GR Beliefs? Integrity Filter Here!

    Being mistaken gives me the creeps because, to the extent that truth matters, it's my only tool, shield, and weapon. So I'm always looking over my shoulder, worrying that I might believe something that's not true. Are any of these NOT true? The spacetime interval is "absolute distance,"...
  21. Haorong Wu

    Understanding the Conservation of Momentum in Special Relativity Collisions

    Solutions are given in the book, but I could not understand some part of them. For problem 2.2, denote the 4-momentum of the photon by ##\mathbf P_\gamma##, that of the particle by ##\mathbf P## and the values after scattering by primes. Then by the conservation of momentum, we have ##...
  22. B

    B SR equation seems to depend on orientation of the 'light clock'

    One of my first exposures to special relativity was looking at a 'light clock' where a photon is emitted and captured by a detector whilst traveling on a train. The passenger sees the photon go straight up. The distance traveled by this photon in a given time, t, is c t An observer however...
  23. A

    SR - Getting Zero Spatial Displacement

    Summary:: I have tried for some time to understand my error but can't figure it out. Any help will be much appreciated. Hi! I'm trying to figure out why the spatial displacement from two events A and B gives zero when I use one method compared to another which doesn't give zero spatial...
  24. AdvaitDhingra

    Best (or at least good) GR and SR textbook for a 15-year-old highschool student

    Hi, I'm a 15-year-old high school student and I was wondering what textbook you guys recommend for Special- and General Relativity. I'm familiar with the concept of the Metric Tensor and Christoffel Symbols, but I wanted a good textbook where I can really learn derive it all and gain a deeper...
  25. The Baron

    Relativity Learning about SR (for beginners)

    What, in your opinion, is the best book about special relativity?(For beginners)
  26. D.S.Beyer

    B SR vs GR - Visual Difference between Length Contraction

    The 2 Bowling Balls Ball(a) & Ball(b) (a) is in acceleration of 10m/s^2 (b) is in at fixed position in a gravitational field where g=10m/s^2 In both cases the observer is: - perpendicular to the vector of acceleration - distant enough to be in empty flat space Question : In an instantaneous...
  27. MacWylie

    B Why Aren’t ALL SR Effects Cumulative?

    Why aren’t all the SR effects cumulative like Time Dilation? Why should the Space dimensional effect become null when v—>0 while the Time dimension does not revert back to the 2 frames being in sync if Space and Time are treated on an equal footing. Clearly, Space and Time are not treated on an...
  28. J

    B Special Relativity & Einstein's Equivalence Principle

    I was recommended a paper: <https://digital.library.adelaide.edu.au/dspace/bitstream/2440/101285/3/hdl_101285.pdf>. And in the opening sentence read: "The Einstein equivalence principle (EEP) is at the heart of special relativity." To me this didn't make sense. Firstly because Einstein...
  29. dextercioby

    I One more talk about the independence of Einstein's SR axioms

    Sorry if this is discussed here previously, but I just stumbled upon an article from 1911 which I would like to bring forth to you. Preamble: it is generally thought that Einstein's (refined) two axioms of SR (1. The laws of physics are invariant upon shifting from one IRF to another. 2. The...
  30. entropy1

    I Which clock was slower in special relativity?

    I don't know much about the math of SR, but this is what's bothering me: if a moving clock B ticks slower than the stationary one I have (A), then from the viewpoint of B, my clock (A) is ticking slower. So if we turn around and meet each other in the middle, which clock was slower than which...
  31. Haorong Wu

    I Acceleration Frame in SR: References for Research

    Hi. I am looking for some references of acceleration frame in SR, such as an accelerating rocket problem. I have some equations regarding the time, distance, velocity measured in the Earth frame, etc. But the reference I have does not provide the derivation of those equations, so I need some...
  32. Grinkle

    B Help Interpreting SR Animation: Human-Scale Story

    At the very bottom of this page - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minkowski_diagram is the below animation. My understanding is that events in the lower triangle are events that can have had an influence on my present, they are in my past-lightcone. I understand that events must move in and...
  33. P J Strydom

    B Leave the science to Scientists. Just tell me what is SR.

    I had this notion that it would be very easy to learn and understand Special Relativity, especially Time dilation. Well, I was wrong. First it will take the general history and philosophy of what Time Dilation is and how it works. Then it takes Mathematical calculations. In the end it takes a...
  34. P

    Conclusion about wave propagation in SR given L dot S = N = L' dot S'

    The problem I am having is "What can you conclude about wave prorogation in SR given the results?". The best I can come up with is that the number of wave planes N crossing a section of spacetime in either frame is the same. The section may be bigger or smaller depending on which frame you're in...
  35. G

    SR w/ Acceleration: Distance Measured by A

    Well, using (1) is easy to see that, at a given time in C ##t## both curves are described with the same value of ##\tau##, i.e. ##\tau_A=\tau_B=\tau##. So the corresponding positions at a given time ##t## are $$x_{AB}=x_{0,AB}+\frac{\cosh{(a\tau)}-1}{a}$$ and therefore $$\Delta x \equiv x_B -...
  36. R

    B Why Shouldn't I Be Skeptical About SR Postulate No.1?

    Why shouldn't i be skeptical about SR postulate no.1 ?? From wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_relativity): "1. the laws of physics are invariant (i.e. identical) in all inertial frames of reference (i.e. non-accelerating frames of reference) " 1. Particles aren't an experiment...
  37. W

    I Equivalence Principle: Locally Flat Spacetimes Explained

    Hi all, I have ran into some confusion about the equivalence principle; perhaps I should state what I understand and then proceed to ask questions. It is my understanding that the equivalence principle states that spacetimes are locally Minkowski, and so the rules of SR apply in that locality...
  38. Athenian

    [SR] - Test Particle inside the Sun's Gravitational Field - Part 4

    So, here's an attempted solution: With ##r_{min}##, $$r_{min} = \frac{1}{B + \frac{\beta}{\alpha^2}}$$ With ##r_{max}##, I get: $$r_{max} = \frac{1}{B - \frac{\beta}{\alpha^2}}$$ or $$r_{max} = \frac{1}{\frac{\beta}{\alpha^2}}$$ Other than this, I and the team have absolutely no idea on how...
  39. Athenian

    [SR] - Test Particle inside the Sun's Gravitational Field - Part 3

    Below, I have already solved - I assume - correctly for question 1. Question 2, I am nearing to what I believe is the solution. Question 3, I simply have no idea where I should begin considering that it is interconnected with question 2. With that said, below is the lengthy and somewhat tedious...
  40. George Keeling

    I Energy Density in SR Energy-Momentum Tensor

    In Special Relativity I'm given the energy-momentum tensor for a perfect fluid:$$ T^{\mu\nu}=\left(\rho+p\right)U^\mu U^\nu+p\eta^{\mu\nu} $$where ##\rho## is the energy density, ##p## is the pressure, ##U^\mu=\partial x^\mu/\partial\tau## is the four-velocity of the fluid. In the...
  41. Athenian

    [SR] - Test Particle inside the Sun's Gravitational Field - Part 2

    To begin with, I posted this thread ahead of time simply because I thought it may provide me some insight on how to solve for another problem that I have previously posted here: https://www.physicsforums.com/threads/special-relativity-test-particle-inside-suns-gravitational-field.983171/unread...
  42. benorin

    B SR Thought: Spacetime Interval w/ Bounds of ##0<\alpha<1##

    Suppose the time interval in the Lab frame is a multiple of the time interval in the Rocket frame ##\alpha \Delta t_L = \Delta t_R##, where ##0 < \alpha < 1## without loss of generality. Then the spacetime interval is ##\left( \Delta t_L\right) ^2-\left( \Delta x_L\right) ^2 = \left( \Delta...
  43. olgerm

    I What is SR transformarion for bispinor?

    what is SR transformarion for bispinor? I have heard that it is different than 4-vectors transfomation.
  44. Athenian

    Traveling to Planet X in 23 Years: An SR Challenge

    Homework Statement: Problem: The planet X is far 48 light-years from Earth. Suppose that we want to travel from Earth to planet X in a time no more than 23 years, as reckoned by clocks aboard our spaceship. At what constant speed would we have to travel? How long would the trip take as reckoned...
  45. Arman777

    I Hubble Law & SR: Does Velocity Increase Mass?

    This question will sound mostly stupid but anyways. We see that galaxies have some velocity due to the Hubble law. Let's take an object that has a recessional velocity of ##v##. In SR case assuming the universe is nearly flat, can we say that the galaxy gains mass relative to us ? I guess in...
  46. P

    A Cooling of Identical Bodies in SR: A Peculiar Situation

    Hi all, Consider the situation depicted in the illustration. Two identical 'square plates' are situated at rest, in frame S, as shown: Plate A has its thickness 'a' parallel to the x-axis and its sides 'L' parallel to the y and z axes, while plate B has its thickness parallel to the y-axis and...
  47. Arman777

    Courses Is it necessary to learn GR and SR to study cosmology?

    I know this question sounds stupid but somehow i need confirmation I guess. Is it necessary to learn GR and SR to study cosmology ?
  48. Auto-Didact

    A Collapse in QM: in conflict with SR?

    It is often claimed in these forums and beyond that collapse in QM is completely unnecessary for one of several reasons. To be explicitly clear, collapse seen purely as a probability theoretical concept of conditional updating - i.e. treating the wavefunction as an epistemic object - isn't...
  49. L

    NASA Mission to Alpha Centauri: SR & Relativistic Effects

    NASA has proposed a mission to Alpha Centuri: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2069_Alpha_Centauri_mission This mission would involve a spacecraft traveling at 10% of light speed and therefore relativistic effects could be somewhat significant. Let's assume this spacecraft is carrying a...
  50. R

    SR: Finding the speed of particles wrt the laboratory

    Homework Statement Two particles in a high-energy accelerator experiment approach each other head-on with a relative speed of 0.890c. Both particles travel at the same speed as measured in the laboratory. What is the speed of each particle, as measured in the laboratory? Homework Equations...
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