1999 AP Physics C Mech: Conservation of momentum and energy

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Homework Statement
Check image
Relevant Equations
Conservation of momentum and energy
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Why is (1/2)(mv0)^2 = 1/2(M+m0)gh not a valid equation for conservation of energy?

Isn't the energy from when the dart is shot the same as when the two masses move at speed v?
 
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j04015 said:
Homework Statement: Check image
Relevant Equations: Conservation of momentum and energy

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Why is (1/2)mv0 = 1/2(M+m0)gh not a valid equation for conservation of energy?

Isn't the energy from when the dart is shot the same as when the two masses move at speed v?
Your question is whether the collision between the dart and block is elastic or not?
 
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To answer the first question,
j04015 said:
Why is (1/2)mv0 = 1/2(M+m0)gh not a valid equation for conservation of energy?
Because ##\frac{1}{2}mv_0## has dimensions of momentum and not energy.
 
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kuruman said:
To answer the first question,

Because ##\frac{1}{2}mv_0## has dimensions of momentum and not energy.
Whoops, typo. I meant (1/2)(mv0)^2
 
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PeroK said:
Your question is whether the collision between the dart and block is elastic or not?
PeroK said:
Your question is whether the collision between the dart and block is elastic or not?
If the collision wasn't elastic the entire problem doesn't make sense.
 
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j04015 said:
If the collision wasn't elastic the entire problem doesn't make sense.
That statement is false!
 
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... the collision is manifestly and totally inelastic!
 
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PeroK said:
... the collision is manifestly and totally inelastic!
I see the issue now. Momentum is conserved but not energy. Thanks!
 
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j04015 said:
I see the issue now. Momentum is conserved but not energy. Thanks!
You can see that if you consider what's going on in the center of mass frame. Before the collision, both dart and block move with opposite momenta. Total momentum is zero and the kinetic energy is non-zero. After the collision, the dart and the block are at rest. Total momentum is zero (conserved) and total kinetic energy is also zero (not conserved).
 
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kuruman said:
You can see that if you consider what's going on in the center of mass frame. Before the collision, both dart and block move with opposite momenta. Total momentum is zero and the kinetic energy is non-zero. After the collision, the dart and the block are at rest. Total momentum is zero (conserved) and total kinetic energy is also zero (not conserved).
The conservation of energy equations will not be compatible with conservation of energy in any frame if you assume that the dart sticks. However, I agree that considering the com frame makes it very explicit.
 

Related to 1999 AP Physics C Mech: Conservation of momentum and energy

What is the principle of conservation of momentum?

The principle of conservation of momentum states that in a closed system with no external forces, the total momentum before and after a collision or interaction remains constant. This means that the sum of the momenta of all objects involved in the interaction will be the same before and after the event.

How does conservation of energy apply to mechanical systems?

In mechanical systems, the principle of conservation of energy states that the total mechanical energy (sum of kinetic and potential energy) remains constant if only conservative forces are acting. This means that energy can change forms, such as from kinetic to potential energy or vice versa, but the total amount of mechanical energy remains unchanged.

What is an elastic collision in the context of conservation of momentum and energy?

An elastic collision is a type of collision where both momentum and kinetic energy are conserved. In an elastic collision, the total kinetic energy of the system before and after the collision remains the same, and the objects involved rebound without any loss of speed, assuming no external forces act on the system.

What is an inelastic collision, and how does it differ from an elastic collision?

An inelastic collision is a type of collision where momentum is conserved, but kinetic energy is not. In inelastic collisions, some of the kinetic energy is transformed into other forms of energy, such as heat or sound, resulting in a loss of total kinetic energy in the system. Objects in a perfectly inelastic collision stick together after the collision, moving as a single object.

How can you use conservation laws to solve problems in AP Physics C Mechanics?

To solve problems using conservation laws in AP Physics C Mechanics, you first identify the type of collision or interaction and the forces involved. For momentum problems, you set up the equation for the conservation of momentum, ensuring the total momentum before the interaction equals the total momentum after. For energy problems, you use the conservation of energy principle to equate the total mechanical energy before and after the event, accounting for any potential energy changes and work done by non-conservative forces if applicable. By solving these equations, you can find unknown quantities such as velocities, heights, or masses.

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