2 weights on a pully, show formula

In summary, the provided conversation discusses the use of an apparatus to measure the free fall acceleration and provides a diagram and equations to demonstrate the relationship between the mass and tension in the system. It also explores the limitations of this relationship in cases where the masses are significantly different.
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Homework Statement



The apparatus (see link to image) is used to measure the free fall acceleration g by measuring the acceleration of the two blocks connected by a string over a pulley. Asume a massless, frictionless pulley and a massless string.
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a) draw a free body diagram of each block
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b)use the free body diagrams and Newton's laws to show that the magnitude of acceleration of either block and tension in string are a=(m1-2)/(m1+2)
c)do these expressions give reasonable results if m1=m2 in the limit that m1 >> m2 and in the limit that m1 << m2 ? Explain

Homework Equations



Fnet=ma
Fg=mg

The Attempt at a Solution


F=ma
T_1=-T_2
T_2=(m_2)g
T_1=(m_1)g
=>m_1(g)=-m_2(g)
 
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Assume block one moves downwards, so the resultant force on m1 is

m1a=mg-T

So what is the resultant force on m2?

Now you have two equations in T and a, you can now eliminate T.
 
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=> (m_1+m_2)g=0 => (m_1+m_2)a=0 => a=0

The formula for the acceleration of either block in this system is a=(m1-m2)/(m1+m2). This can be derived by applying Newton's second law, Fnet=ma, to each block and solving for the acceleration. The free body diagrams show that the net force on each block is equal to the difference in the weights of the two blocks, divided by the total mass of the system. The tension in the string can also be calculated using this formula.

In the limit that m1 >> m2, the expression becomes a=(m1-m2)/m1, which simplifies to a=1- m2/m1. This means that as m1 becomes much larger than m2, the acceleration of the system approaches 1, which is the acceleration due to gravity. This is a reasonable result, as the larger mass will dominate and the system will behave similarly to a single block falling freely.

Similarly, in the limit that m1 << m2, the expression becomes a=(m1-m2)/m2, which simplifies to a=-1+ m1/m2. This means that as m2 becomes much larger than m1, the acceleration of the system approaches -1, which is the acceleration due to gravity in the opposite direction. This is also a reasonable result, as the smaller mass will be pulled down by the larger mass and will accelerate in the opposite direction.

In conclusion, the derived formula for the acceleration and tension in this system gives reasonable results in both scenarios, demonstrating the accuracy of Newton's laws and the usefulness of the free body diagrams in analyzing the forces at play.
 

Related to 2 weights on a pully, show formula

1. How does the weight affect the tension in a pulley system?

The weight placed on a pulley system affects the tension in the system. The more weight there is, the higher the tension will be in the ropes or cables connected to the pulley. This is because the weight creates a force that pulls down on the rope, which in turn creates tension.

2. What is the formula for calculating the tension in a pulley system?

The formula for calculating the tension in a pulley system is T = (2W - F)/2, where T is tension, W is weight, and F is the force required to lift the weight. This formula assumes that the pulley is frictionless and that the ropes or cables are massless.

3. How does the number of pulleys affect the tension in a pulley system?

The number of pulleys in a system does not directly affect the tension. However, having more pulleys can distribute the weight evenly, reducing the tension in each rope or cable. This can be calculated by dividing the total weight by the number of ropes or cables supporting it.

4. Why is a pulley system used to lift heavy objects?

A pulley system is used to lift heavy objects because it allows the weight to be distributed among multiple ropes or cables. This reduces the amount of force needed to lift the weight, making it easier for humans to lift heavy objects. It also allows for more control and precision in lifting objects.

5. What are some real-life applications of a pulley system?

Pulley systems are commonly used in construction, elevators, and cranes to lift heavy materials and objects. They are also used in exercise equipment, such as weight machines, to provide resistance. In addition, pulley systems are used in sailing to hoist sails and control rigging. They can also be found in simple machines like clotheslines and flagpoles.

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