-242.7x.13 Solve the DE \dfrac{dy}{dx}=7x^6e^{-y}

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In summary: It makes it much easier to know exactly what I'm dealing with.In summary, you solved a separable ODE by correctly separating the variables and integrating both sides. You then isolated y and found that \ln(e)^y=ln\left({x}\right)^7.
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$\textsf{Solve the differential equation}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\frac{dy}{dx}&=7x^6e^{-y}\\
dy&=7x^6e^{-y} \, dx \\
e^y dy&=7x^6 dx
\end{align*}
$\textit{just seeing if going the right direction on this...}$
 
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I've moved the thread to our "Differential Equations" forum. ;)

Yes, you have been given a separable ODE, and you have separated the variables correctly, now you are ready to integrate. :D
 
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$\tiny{242.7x.13}$
$\textsf{Solve the differential equation}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\frac{dy}{dx}&=7x^6e^{-y}\\
dy&=7x^6e^{-y} \, dx \\
e^y dy&=7x^6 dx
\end{align*}
$\textit{Integrate both sides}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\int e^y dy &=\int 7x^6 dx\\
e^y&=x^7
\end{align*}
$\textit{Isolate y}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
ln (e)^y&=ln\left({x}\right)^7 \\
y&=7ln(x)
\end{align*}
$\textit{Is it this ??}$
 
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karush said:
$\tiny{242.7x.13}$
$\textsf{Solve the differential equation}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\frac{dy}{dx}&=7x^6e^{-y}\\
dy&=7x^6e^{-y} \, dx \\
e^y dy&=7x^6 dx
\end{align*}
$\textit{Integrate both sides}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
\int e^y dy &=\int 7x^6 dx\\
e^y&=x^7
\end{align*}
$\textit{Isolate y}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
ln (e)^y&=ln\left({x}\right)^7 \\
y&=7ln(x)
\end{align*}
$\textit{Is it this ??}$

You forgot the constant of integration...but otherwise, you did fine. :D
 
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\begin{align*}\displaystyle
ln (e)^y&=ln\left({x}\right)^7 \\
y&=7ln(x)+C
\end{align*}
 
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karush said:
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
ln (e)^y&=ln\left({x}\right)^7 \\
y&=7ln(x)+C
\end{align*}
$\text{easy to forget our C friend...}:cool:$

You can't simply "tack it on" there...it has to be there before you take logs to solve for $y$...;)

\(\displaystyle e^y=x^7+C\)

\(\displaystyle y=\ln\left(x^7+C\right)\)
 
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One comment on notation too:

karush said:
$\textit{Isolate y}$
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
ln (e)^y&=ln\left({x}\right)^7 \\
y&=7ln(x)
\end{align*}
$\textit{Is it this ??}$
The way you have written this can be confusing, since \(\displaystyle \ln (a^b) = b \ln(a)\). But at least I read \(\displaystyle \ln (a)^b\) as \(\displaystyle (\ln a)^b\). And for this we know \(\displaystyle (\ln a)^b \ne b \ln (a)\).
 
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Theia said:
One comment on notation too:

The way you have written this can be confusing, since \(\displaystyle \ln (a^b) = b \ln(a)\). But at least I read \(\displaystyle \ln (a)^b\) as \(\displaystyle (\ln a)^b\). And for this we know \(\displaystyle (\ln a)^b \ne b \ln (a)\).

why would you read \(\displaystyle \ln (a)^b\) as \(\displaystyle (\ln a)^b\) this notation clearly is not the same thing?
 
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karush said:
why would you read \(\displaystyle \ln (a)^b\) as \(\displaystyle (\ln a)^b\) this notation clearly is not the same thing?

Because it looks like the whole argument of the logarithm is in parenthesis, and the exponent is not there. And so the possibility for ambiguity arises...
 
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Theia said:
Because it looks like the whole argument of the logarithm is in parenthesis, and the exponent is not there. And so the possibility for ambiguity arises...

Yes, I agree completely and I would certainly prefer the notation:

\(\displaystyle \log_a\left(b^c\right)\)

This is clear where the exponent belongs. :D
 
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MarkFL said:
Yes, I agree completely and I would certainly prefer the notation:

\(\displaystyle \log_a\left(b^c\right)\)

This is clear where the exponent belongs. :D

it might be preferable but I see both all the time it not that confusing...

$\log(abc)^2$ or $log(a^2 b^2 c^2)$ but this $(log abc)^2$ is obviously different...

bone for the day award;)
 
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karush said:
it might be preferable but I see both all the time it not that confusing...

$\log(abc)^2$ or $log(a^2 b^2 c^2)$ but this $(log abc)^2$ is obviously different...

bone for the day award;)

Personally, for clarity, I would write:

\(\displaystyle \log\left((abc)^2\right)\)

For any function, I want anything and everything regarding the argument(s) inside brackets.
 

FAQ: -242.7x.13 Solve the DE \dfrac{dy}{dx}=7x^6e^{-y}

What is the given differential equation and what is it asking us to solve?

The given differential equation is \dfrac{dy}{dx}=7x^6e^{-y}, and it is asking us to find the solution for y in terms of x.

How do I solve this type of differential equation?

This is a separable differential equation, which means we can separate the variables and integrate both sides. First, we can rearrange the equation to get e^ydy=7x^6dx. Then, we can integrate both sides to get e^y=C_1x^7+C_2, where C_1 and C_2 are constants of integration.

How do I find the values of the constants of integration?

To find the values of C_1 and C_2, we can use initial conditions. This means plugging in specific values for x and y into the equation. For example, if the initial condition is y(0)=-2, then we can solve for C_2 by plugging in x=0 and y=-2 into the equation e^y=C_1x^7+C_2.

Can I solve this differential equation numerically instead of analytically?

Yes, this differential equation can also be solved numerically using methods such as Euler's method or the Runge-Kutta method. This involves approximating the solution at specific points using a step size and calculating the slope at each point.

What are the applications of this type of differential equation?

This type of differential equation, known as a first-order separable differential equation, has many applications in physics, engineering, and other fields. It can be used to model growth and decay processes, population dynamics, and chemical reactions, among others.

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