A few key questions about the Big bang model of the universe

In summary: The universe was not a point, it was already infinite in extent. The big bang is just a name for the model in which a very high density occurred early on in the universe's history and then it expanded.In summary, the Big Bang theory does not propose that the universe began as a singular point in space with nothing but vacuum surrounding it. Instead, the theory suggests that the universe was already infinite in extent and experienced a very high density early on, leading to expansion. The concept of a "bounce" is often used to describe this collapse and rebound process, and it is supported by quantum effects that limit the maximum density that can be achieved. Further reading on non-singular cosmology and bounce models can provide more insight into the
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Well actually, I only have one question about the Big Bang model. According to Big bang theory, at the beginning of the universe the was a very high density region. So then the pressure on our early universe must be really really high. When there is pressure present , that means there is outward force pushing on the object with high pressure. There must have been some really large object pushing on the universe during its early stages if the early universe was extremely dense.
 
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According to Big bang theory, at the beginning of the universe the was a very high density region.
No, at the beginning, the whole universe had a very high density, not just an artificially compressed region.
 
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Ich said:
No, at the beginning, the whole universe had a very high density, not just an artificially compressed region.

How can the whole universe have a very had density if there must be some outside force pushing on the universe for high density to exist in the first place? High density just doesn't occur on an object without forces outwardly pushing on that object.
 
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pentazoid said:
How can the whole universe have a very had density if there must be some outside force pushing on the universe for high density to exist in the first place? High density just doesn't occur on an object without forces outwardly pushing on that object.

Do you have any evidence for that statement? A chunk of tungsten has a high density, and nothing is pushing on it.
 
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density and pressure are not the same thing

tungsten is dense but it doesn't have a high internal prssure does it? What about the early universe. Did it have both hight pressure and density? or just high density?
 
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Vanadium 50 said:
Do you have any evidence for that statement? A chunk of tungsten has a high density, and nothing is pushing on it.

I guess you are right. But, Tungsten doesn't exist in a vacuum. The notion that the whole universe begin as a singular point in space , with nothing but vacuum surrounding is very counterintuitive to me.

density and pressure are not the same thing

I know , but density is proportional to pressure.

rho= MP/RT .
 
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pentazoid said:
Well actually, I only have one question about the Big Bang model. According to Big bang theory, at the beginning of the universe the was a very high density region...

Ich said:
No, at the beginning, the whole universe had a very high density, not just an artificially compressed region.

pentazoid said:
How can the whole universe have a very had density if there must be some outside force pushing on the universe for high density to exist in the first place? High density just doesn't occur on an object without forces outwardly pushing on that object.

Pentazoid, it looks to me like you are trying to think physically and understand, not just pick holes. That's good.
Please read the essays at Einstein Online and this famous Scientific American article called "Misconceptions about the Big Bang". Then come back with possibly revised questions.
SciAm
http://www.astro.princeton.edu/~aes/AST105/Readings/misconceptionsBigBang.pdf
Einstein Online
http://www.einstein-online.info/en/spotlights/cosmology/index.html

In the Big Bang theory there are actually several models being currently studied. Ich told you one important thing already. In all models the matter is approximately evenly distributed throughout. So above all you have to get rid of the picture of an explosion, where stuff flies out into empty space. There is no "region" of high density with some separate surrounding region of low density. That's a bad picture. Ich is making that point.

In some of the models studied in Big Bang theory this moment of very high uniform density is the result of the collapse of a prior phase of the universe.

The analogy people use is that of a "bounce". The very high density is achieved as in a gravitational collapse, somewhat like when a star abruptly collapses (but in the case of the star there is surrounding empty space, in our "big bounce" case it is the whole universe, the whole of space and matter, that collapses and rebounds.)

There are a lot of technical papers about so-called non-singular cosmology, bounce models etc. The models work because of some interesting quantum effects that modify the way gravity acts at very high density. This puts a calculable limit on how high the density can get (during a collapse) before a rebound occurs---causing the kind of expansion which we currently observe.

Please tell us again (after reading the SciAm article and the Einstein Online material) what it is you want to know.
 
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pentazoid said:
The notion that the whole universe begin as a singular point in space , with nothing but vacuum surrounding is very counterintuitive to me.

Good, because that's not what the big bang theory says. The universe did not explode into a pre-existing space. Space itself expanded.
 

FAQ: A few key questions about the Big bang model of the universe

What is the Big Bang model of the universe?

The Big Bang model is a scientific theory that explains the origin and evolution of the universe. It proposes that the universe began as a singularity, a point of infinite density and temperature, and has been expanding and cooling ever since.

What evidence supports the Big Bang model?

There are several pieces of evidence that support the Big Bang model, including the cosmic microwave background radiation, the abundance of light elements, and the large-scale structure of the universe. These all align with the predictions of the model and provide strong support for its validity.

How does the Big Bang model explain the formation of galaxies and other structures?

The Big Bang model explains the formation of galaxies and other structures through a process called inflation. This is a period of rapid expansion in the early universe that is responsible for the clumping of matter and the formation of large-scale structures. Over time, gravity pulls this matter together to form galaxies, stars, and planets.

What is dark energy and how does it fit into the Big Bang model?

Dark energy is a mysterious force that is believed to make up about 70% of the universe. It is thought to be responsible for the accelerating expansion of the universe, and it fits into the Big Bang model as a component of the universe's energy content. However, its exact nature and role in the model are still not fully understood.

Are there any alternatives to the Big Bang model?

While the Big Bang model is the most widely accepted theory for the origin and evolution of the universe, there are alternative models such as the steady-state model and the oscillating universe model. However, these models have not been supported by as much evidence as the Big Bang model, and they are not as widely accepted in the scientific community.

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