A little philosophical electric discussion

In summary, the conversation discussed the role of electrons in the fundamental interactions of nature, including chemical reactions and the electromagnetic force. It also touched on the question of whether we are all connected through a universal circuit, which was refuted. The topic of electron transfer in relation to human bodies and sunlight was also explored. The concept of Van der Waal's force was mentioned, which is one way that atoms and molecules stick together due to the leak of charge from the atom. Finally, there was a discussion on the movement of electrons and the nature of photons.
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tempneff
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A little philosophical electric discussion...

So, am I understanding this correctly? The movement of electrons is the fundamental interaction of all that we know...right? It's the driving force behind chemical reactions of all kinds and those are at the root of, well everything...right?

Sooooo...are we all connected through a massive universal circuit??

Maybe that cannot be answered definitively.

What about our human bodies, do we leave behind electrons when we touch things of opposite charge?

Does sunlight transfer electrons from outer space into our bodies?

If we look at an object does it's electrons interact with our body?
 
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tempneff said:
So, am I understanding this correctly? The movement of electrons is the fundamental interaction of all that we know...right? It's the driving force behind chemical reactions of all kinds and those are at the root of, well everything...right?

Actually there are 4 fundamental forces of nature. The Electron is a main source of one of them, the electromagnetic force. In addition there is the Strong force, which holds the quarks, the particles that compose Protons and Neutrons together, the weak force, which gives us beta decay, and gravity, which makes it really painful to jump off of a bridge.

Sooooo...are we all connected through a massive universal circuit??

Not at all.

What about our human bodies, do we leave behind electrons when we touch things of opposite charge?

Of opposite charge of what? Your body is composed primarily of atoms of neutral charge. IE they have equal protons (positive charge) and electrons (negative charge) in each atom.

Does sunlight transfer electrons from outer space into our bodies?

Photons (the particle of light) are absorbed in our body. One of the main things they cause is heat! Hence why you get REALLY hot in the middle of summer if you stand out in the sun.

If we look at an object does it's electrons interact with our body?

Depends on what you mean by that. Light that is either emitted or reflected from an object is absorbed by certain molecules in the retina of your eye. This starts a chain of events that eventually leads to you seeing the object.
 
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Of opposite charge of what? Your body is composed primarily of atoms of neutral charge. IE they have equal protons (positive charge) and electrons (negative charge) in each atom.



Hmmm..I see your point. But despite our electrical balance, are we not constantly undergoing chemical interactions with the things around us. Isn't it electrical attraction that makes molecules combine or change. If we touch water it sticks to us, isn't this electrical? A net neutral charge isn't indicative of exclusive neutrality is it?


photons (the particle of light) are absorbed in our body. One of the main things they cause is heat! Hence why you get REALLY hot in the middle of summer if you stand out in the sun.

Right, but isn't that heat due to the movement of electrons between atoms agitated by the energy brought by the photon. Also, I know the jury is out in regard to what a photon is comprised of, but isn't there an electron - positron theory. So again, electron transfer?
 
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tempneff said:
Hmmm..I see your point. But despite our electrical balance, are we not constantly undergoing chemical interactions with the things around us. Isn't it electrical attraction that makes molecules combine or change. If we touch water it sticks to us, isn't this electrical? A net neutral charge isn't indicative of exclusive neutrality is it?

You are correct. The Van der Waal's force is one such effect. The charge from the atom "leaks" out because it is not 100% neutral thanks to the way the electrons occupy their orbitals. This attraction is one way that atoms and molecules stick together.
Right, but isn't that heat due to the movement of electrons between atoms agitated by the energy brought by the photon. Also, I know the jury is out in regard to what a photon is comprised of, but isn't there an electron - positron theory. So again, electron transfer?

Yes, the light causes movement of the electrons of the atom, as well as the atom as a whole. It can vibrate and rotate and such. To my knowledge there isn't really much debate on what a photon is. I think it is simply a quantization of the electromagnetic field. This usually isn't regarded as an interaction between electrons. After all, it is possible for things other than electrons to emit light. I believe any charged particle will do, such as a proton.
 
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I find this discussion very intriguing. The movement of electrons is indeed the fundamental interaction that drives many processes in our world. It is the basis of electricity, chemical reactions, and even the functioning of our own bodies.

In terms of being connected through a universal circuit, it is an interesting concept to consider. While we may not be able to definitively answer that question, there is evidence that suggests that we are all connected in some way. For example, the concept of quantum entanglement suggests that particles can be connected and influence each other regardless of distance. This could potentially apply to electrons as well.

As for leaving behind electrons when we touch things of opposite charge, it is possible for some electrons to transfer between objects when they come into contact. This is known as static electricity. However, the overall charge of our bodies remains balanced.

Sunlight does transfer electrons from outer space into our bodies, as well as providing energy to our cells through the process of photosynthesis. And yes, when we look at an object, the electrons of that object interact with the electrons in our bodies, creating a connection between us and the object.

Overall, while we may not fully understand the extent of our connection to the universe through electrons, it is clear that they play a crucial role in our world and in our understanding of it. It is always fascinating to consider the philosophical implications of scientific concepts.
 

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