A Nonlinear Second Order Differential Equation Problem

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving a dust particle falling under the influence of gravitational force through water vapor, and developing into a rain droplet. The student is asked to calculate the acceleration of the droplet and determine its equation of motion. After some initial struggles, they are given a hint to use a substitution method to solve the nonlinear second order differential equation. The expert then provides a detailed explanation of the method and solves the equation to find the acceleration and equation of motion for the droplet.
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overmage
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A Nonlinear Second Order Differential Equation Problem: very frustrating please help!

Hello, I am a first year engineering undergraduate student, and this is my question.

Homework Statement


A dust particle of negligible mass starts to fall, t=0, under the influence of gravitational force through mist of saturated water vapor. The vapor condenses onto the dust particle at a constant rate of [tex]\lambda[/tex] kilogram per meter of traveled distance. The dust particle thereby develops into a rain droplet with increasing mass.

a) Calculate the acceleration of the droplet as a function of its velocity and covered distance.

b) Determine the equation of motion of the droplet by integrating the expression of the acceleration, neglecting friction, collisions, etc.

Homework Equations


I have already solved a). The equation (which I am told is correct) is:
[tex]\frac{dv}{dt} + \frac{v^{2}}{x} = [/tex] g

where g is the gravitational field strength.

The Attempt at a Solution


I was given the 'hint' of substituting [tex]f(x) = At^{n}[/tex] to solve this equation for the position x, and determine A and n.

I have no idea how to determine A and n, frankly. In fact, I have never done Second Order ODEs before, let alone nonlinear Second Order ODEs. (Before you ask why I would be set a question on Second Order ODEs not having done it before - my professor - let's just say I've had better elementary schools teachers.)

I arrive at this equation:

(2n[tex]^{2}-n)At^{n-2} = [/tex] g

What do I do from here now? Four hours of rearranging to no avail.

P.S. After sleuthing around, I discovered that the usual method for solving such equations is to substitute it to a first order one. This doesn't look like it...
 
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Hi Overmage,

Your equation

[tex]
\frac{dv}{dt} + \frac{v^{2}}{x} = g
[/tex]

is correct, it was a good job to derive it!


Now it is a first order differential equation (contains first derivative only), but non-linear. Luckily, it does not contain the time itself. There is a trick for such equations, often applied in Mechanics: We will use x as independent variable instead of t.

[tex]
\frac{dv}{dt} =\frac{dv}{dx}\frac{dx}{dt}=v\frac{dv}{dx}
[/tex]

Substituting for dv/dt, your equation becomes:

[tex]
\frac{dv}{dx}v+\frac{v^{2}}{x} = g
[/tex]

Now the second trick comes:

[tex]
\frac{dv}{dx}v=0.5\frac{d(v^2)}{dx}
[/tex]

and we choose v^2 as dependent variable, say y=v^2.

Now we arrived at a totally different-looking equation:

[tex]
0.5 \frac{dy}{dx}+\frac{y}{x} = g
[/tex]

This is a linear equation! You can solve it by assuming y in a product form: y=F*G.

Have you learned that method from Maths? If you do not know it yet, I'll explain.

Anyway: the solution will be:

[tex]
v^2=\frac{2gx}{3}
[/tex]

from where you get the acceleration, and it will be a surprise!

ehild
 
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No, I'm not familiar with that. =( could you give me a general idea of how that works out?
 
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You have a differential equation of form

a(x)y'+b(x)y=c(x) (the prime means differentiation), with initial condition y=0 at x=0, the prime means differentiation.

Assume Y=F(X)G(x).

a(x)(F'G+FG')+b(x)FG =c(x). *

You have the freedom to choose G so that

a(x)FG' + b(x) FG =0

Divide the eq. by F.

a(x)G'+b(X)G=0.

You can solve this equation by separating the variables.

[tex] \int{\frac{dG}{G}}=\int{\frac{-b(x)}{a(x)}dx} [/tex]

Replace back G(x) into eq. *.

a(x)F'G(x) = c(x)

[tex]F(x)=\int{\frac{c(x)}{a(x)G(x)}}+const[/tex]

y=F(x)G(x).
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Your equation is :

0.5 y' +y/x =g ---> y'+2y/x=2g

a=1, b=2/x, c=g


[tex] \int{\frac{dG}{G}}=-\int{\frac{2}{x}dx} \rightarrow G(x)=x^{-2}[/tex]

[tex] F'G(x)=c(x)\rightarrow F'=2gx^2 \rightarrow

F(x)=\frac{2gx^3}{3}+C[/tex]

[tex]y(x)= F(x)G(x)=\frac{2gx}{3}+\frac{C}{x^2} [/tex]

C=0 according to the initial condition.

[tex]y(x)=\frac{2gx}{3}[/tex]

ehild
 
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Hey,

Thanks a lot for the help! I really appreciate it. However, can i clarify just one last thing:

0.5 y' +y/x =g ---> y'+2y/x=2g

a=1, b=2/x, c=g

shouldn't c be = 2g?

Thanks for the help you've given! Wow, this problem is kinda hard. Think you've pretty much covered it all though.
 
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overmage said:
Hey,

Thanks a lot for the help! I really appreciate it. However, can i clarify just one last thing:



shouldn't c be = 2g?

Thanks for the help you've given! Wow, this problem is kinda hard. Think you've pretty much covered it all though.

Yes, of course... :)


ehild
 

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