A run of the mill Implicit Differentiation

In summary, the student tried to solve an equation by Implicit Differentiation and got the incorrect answer.
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Homework Statement



Use Implicit Differentiation to find y' of the equation 5x^2+ 3xy+y^2=152. The attempt at a solution

y'= (-10x-5y)/3x

I would like to know if I did this right. I am not very confident in my math sometimes that why I came here. If i did this wrong will you please steer me right. Also if anyone could tell me how to put an equation in more like how you would write it I would appreciate that very much. (As in not the linear fashion I have done)
 
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I don't think this is correct. But, I have not done this in awhile. I think your problem is in the 2nd term [itex]3xy[/itex]. You have a product rule here.

You have [itex]\frac{d}{dx}[3xy]=3*\frac{d}{dx}[xy][/itex]. Now what is [itex] \frac{d}{dx}[xy][/itex] ? I.e, what is the product rule?
 
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when i did the product rule i got 3y+3xy'
 
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Group the terms with y' and separate the terms without y' into the other side of the equation. Then you can factor out y' from one side.
 
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I did that last time then the 3y and the and the 2y (previously y^2) combine to 5y then negative after I subtract it over. what answer did you get? Also I believe I may have posted this in the wrong thread, its just a problem on a study guide.

So after doing what you said I again got the same answer.
 
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You can't combine 3y and 2y because 2y is in the form (2y*y') by chain rule. 3y is a term without y', so the equation is actually 10x + 3y = -3x*y' -2y*y' (and then factor from there).
 
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oh damn it your right lol thanks that's where i thought i may have gone wrong
 

FAQ: A run of the mill Implicit Differentiation

What is implicit differentiation?

Implicit differentiation is a method used in calculus to find the derivative of a function that is not explicitly written in terms of a single variable. It is useful when the equation of a curve cannot be easily solved for one variable in terms of the other.

Why is implicit differentiation important?

Implicit differentiation allows us to find the derivative of a function even when it is not in the form y = f(x). This is useful in solving real-world problems that involve multiple variables, such as in physics, economics, and engineering.

How is implicit differentiation performed?

To perform implicit differentiation, we treat the dependent variable (usually y) as a function of the independent variable (usually x) and use the chain rule to differentiate each term in the equation. Then, we solve for the derivative of y in terms of x.

What are the common applications of implicit differentiation?

Implicit differentiation is commonly used in finding maximum and minimum values of a function, determining rates of change, and finding tangent lines to curves. It is also used in optimization problems and in finding the slope of a curve at a specific point.

Can implicit differentiation be applied to any type of function?

Yes, implicit differentiation can be applied to any type of function, including polynomial, exponential, logarithmic, and trigonometric functions. However, the process may become more complicated for more complex functions.

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