A second opinion for a tricky problem?

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In summary, the conversation discusses finding partial derivatives of z in terms of x and t, using the chain rule and substitutions. The first partial, \frac{\partial z}{\partial \theta}, is found by substituting \theta=x^2+t into z and using the chain rule. The second partial, \frac{\partial z}{\partial \phi}, is found by substituting x=\phi + t into z and using the chain rule. It is important to note that the correct equation for \frac{\partial z}{\partial \phi} is \frac{\partial z}{\partial \phi}=\frac{\partial z}{\partial t}\frac{\partial t}{\partial \phi}+ \frac{\
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Homework Statement


[tex]z=e^{i(\kappa x-\omega t)[/tex]

[tex]\theta=x^2+t[/tex] and [tex]\phi=x-t[/tex]

find [tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial \theta}[/tex] and [tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial \phi}[/tex] in terms of x and t only.

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for the first partial I thought to solve the [tex]\theta=x^2+t[/tex] for t and to substitute to the z and then to use the chain rule. So to do this

[tex]t=\theta-x^2[/tex] and so [tex]z=e^{i(\kappa x-\omega (\theta-x^2))}[/tex]

then in order to find [tex] \frac{\partial z}{\partial \theta}[/tex] I will do this [tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial \theta}=\frac{\partial z}{\partial x} \frac{\partial x}{\partial \theta}[/tex]

Now [tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial x}=e^{i(\kappa x-\omega (\theta-x^2))}(i(\kappa x-\omega (\theta-x^2)))'=e^{i(\kappa x-\omega (\theta-x^2))}(i\kappa - 2\omega x)[/tex]

the [tex]\frac{\partial x}{\partial \theta}=\frac{1}{2x}[/tex]

so [tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial \theta}=\frac{\partial z}{\partial x} \frac{\partial x}{\partial \theta}=\frac{e^{i(\kappa x-\omega (\theta-x^2))}(i\kappa - 2\omega x)}{2x}[/tex]

Now we substitute again the t and we get

[tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial \theta}=\frac{e^{i(\kappa x-\omega t)}(i\kappa - 2\omega x)}{2x}[/tex]

For the second partial I follow the same way

[tex]x=\phi + t[/tex] I substitute to z and I get [tex]z=e^{i(\kappa (\phi + t) -\omega t)}[/tex]

and then [tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial \phi}=\frac{\partial z}{\partial t}\frac{\partial t}{\partial \phi}[/tex]

We find that [tex]\frac{\partial t}{\partial \phi}=-1[/tex] and

[tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial t}=e^{i(\kappa (\phi + t) -\omega t)}(i(\kappa (\phi + t) -\omega t))'=e^{i(\kappa (\phi + t) -\omega t)}(i \kappa - \omega)[/tex]

so [tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial \phi}=\frac{\partial z}{\partial t}\frac{\partial t}{\partial \phi}=-e^{i(\kappa (\phi + t) -\omega t)}(i \kappa - \omega)[/tex]

I am not sure if this is the solution, i need a second opinion. I am a mathematician and I need someone else to tell me if I am wrong and where. Thank you for your time. Please read carefully before to answer. Thank you
 
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[tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial \phi}\ne\frac{\partial z}{\partial t}\frac{\partial t}{\partial \phi}[/tex]
[tex]\frac{\partial z}{\partial \phi}=\frac{\partial z}{\partial t}\frac{\partial t}{\partial \phi}+ \frac{\partial z}{\partial x}\frac{\partial x}{\partial \phi}[/tex]
and the same for [itex]\theta[/itex].
 

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