Abs Values in Electric Potential & Potential Difference?

In summary, there is inconsistency in the notation of electric potential (V) and potential difference (ΔV), but they are often used synonymously. It may not matter theoretically or mathematically whether the absolute value of ΔV is taken, but it is a more logically correct choice to use ΔV instead of V. In the context of electric circuits, people tend to use just V, allowing ΔV to be used in a different sense. For the equation C = Q/ΔV, both the signed value of ΔV and the absolute value of ΔV can be used, as long as Q represents the charge on the plate that is not being used to measure ΔV. For the energy formula, it does not matter
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I'm a little bothered with the inconsistency in notation of electric potential (V) and potential difference (ΔV) because they're apparently used synonymously... but what really confuses me more is that I've seen absolute value around ΔV sometimes. It may not matter (theoretically or mathematically) but I'd appreciate if somebody could clear it up for me!

For the following three equations, does it matter if the absolute value of ΔV is taken? Also, why?
[itex]\Delta V=-\int_{a}^{b}\vec{E}\cdot \mathrm{d}\vec{l}[/itex]

[itex]C=\frac{Q}{\Delta V}[/itex]

[itex]U_{C}=\frac{1}{2}Q\Delta V=\frac{1}{2}C\Delta V^{2}[/itex]

For the latter two, I thought that ΔV would have to be positive even without the absolute value since it deals with capacitance... I don't think negative capacitance is possible? But for the first one, it doesn't seem to make sense to take the absolute value of ΔV since the negative of the integral of the field is taken.
 
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ΔV or V ?
In all cases you've quoted, ΔV is a more logically correct choice than V, because where you take the zero of potential is irrelevant. But in the last two cases, as in much work with electric circuits, people tend to use just V. Apart from avoiding clumsiness, this frees up ΔV to use in a different sense, for example in the contexts of p.d.changing with time.

ΔV or |ΔV| ?
rcgldr has, I think, hit the nail on the head for C = Q/ΔV (or C = Q/V !). You may use the signed value of [itex]\Delta[/itex]V, as long as you mean by[itex]\Delta[/itex]V the change in potential going from the plate A to plate B, and by Q you mean the charge on plate B, for an arbitrary choice of which plate you're calling 'A' and which, 'B'. But C = |Q|/|[itex]\Delta[/itex]V| would be equally good.

For your energy formula, it clearly doesn't matter whether you regard [itex]\Delta[/itex]V as signed or not, since you're squaring it.
 

FAQ: Abs Values in Electric Potential & Potential Difference?

What is an absolute value in electric potential?

An absolute value in electric potential refers to the magnitude of the electric potential at a certain point in space, regardless of its direction. It is a scalar quantity and is measured in volts.

How is absolute value related to potential difference?

Potential difference, also known as voltage, is the difference in electric potential between two points in an electric field. The absolute value of potential difference is the magnitude of this difference, without considering the direction. It represents the amount of work required to move a unit charge from one point to another in an electric field.

Can the absolute value of potential difference be negative?

No, the absolute value of potential difference cannot be negative. It is always a positive quantity, as it represents the magnitude of the difference in electric potential between two points. However, the direction of potential difference can be positive or negative, depending on the direction of the electric field.

How is the absolute value of potential difference measured?

The absolute value of potential difference is measured using a voltmeter, which is a device that measures the electric potential difference between two points in an electric circuit. It is typically connected in parallel to the circuit component that is being measured.

How is the absolute value of electric potential calculated?

The absolute value of electric potential is calculated by dividing the potential energy by the charge at a specific point in an electric field. It can also be calculated by multiplying the electric field strength by the distance between two points in the field. The unit of measurement for electric potential is volts (V).

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