Absolutely Convergent Series Rearangement Proof: Counterexample and Explanation

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In summary, the conversation discusses a theorem that states that every conditionally convergent series can be rearranged to converge to any real number or to diverge. The participants discuss examples and counterexamples, as well as potential implications of the theorem. The conversation ultimately leads to the realization that the definitions and observations made are a lemma to Riemann's theorem.
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My book proves that if a series is absolutely convergent, then every rearangement is absolutely convergent also.

They then argue that the thm does not hold for conditionally convergeant series and give as a counter exemple the following thing: Let [itex]\sum a_n[/itex] be a conditionally convergent series and define the positive part of {a_n} by p_n = a_n if a_n > 0 and =0 otherwise and the negative part of {a_n} by q_n = a_n if a_n < 0 and =0 otherwise. Then observe that

[tex]p_n=\frac{a_n+|a_n|}{2}[/tex]

and

[tex]q_n=\frac{a_n-|a_n|}{2}[/tex]

or that inversely,

[tex]|a_n|=p_n-q_n[/tex] and [tex]a_n=p_n+q_n[/tex]

But what does this prove? Where is the rearangement?
 
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quasar987 said:
My book proves that if a series is absolutely convergent, then every rearangement is absolutely convergent also.

They then argue that the thm does not hold for conditionally convergeant series and give as a counter exemple the following thing: Let [itex]\sum a_n[/itex] be a conditionally convergent series and define the positive part of {a_n} by p_n = a_n if a_n > 0 and =0 otherwise and the negative part of {a_n} by q_n = a_n if a_n < 0 and =0 otherwise. Then observe that

[tex]p_n=\frac{a_n+|a_n|}{2}[/tex]

and

[tex]q_n=\frac{a_n-|a_n|}{2}[/tex]

or that inversely,

[tex]|a_n|=p_n-q_n[/tex] and [tex]a_n=p_n+q_n[/tex]

But what does this prove? Where is the rearangement?

all i can imagine is that neither of those new smaller series is convergent

edit

i think only [tex] p_n [/tex] is divergent so i don't know what that does

mathworld says

If [tex]\Sigma u_k[/tex] and [tex]\Sigma v_k[/tex] are convergent series, then [tex]\Sigma (u_k+v_k)[/tex] and [tex]\Sigma (u_k-v_k)[/tex] are convergent.

but i don't know if the reverse ( or w/e the proper word is ) has to be true

where if [tex]\Sigma u_k[/tex] is divergent then [tex]\Sigma (u_k+v_k)[/tex] is also divergent
 
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Ugh. Sorry ice109 if you spent time thinking about this. I just realized that the definitions and observations made in my OP are just a kind of lemma to Riemann's theorem that every conditionally convergent series can be rearranged to converge to any real number or to diverge.
 
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quasar987 said:
Ugh. Sorry ice109 if you spent time thinking about this. I just realized that the definitions and observations made in my OP are just a kind of lemma to Riemann's theorem that every conditionally convergent series can be rearranged to converge to any real number or to diverge.

which theorem is that?
 
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well I just stated it:

"every conditionally convergent series can be rearranged to converge to any real number or to diverge."
 
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quasar987 said:
well I just stated it:

"every conditionally convergent series can be rearranged to converge to any real number or to diverge."

i meant which theorem so i could look up a proof
 
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What more can I say other than that it's a thm of Riemann and give you the exact statement? :confused:
 

FAQ: Absolutely Convergent Series Rearangement Proof: Counterexample and Explanation

What is the meaning of "rearrangement of series"?

"Rearrangement of series" refers to the process of changing the order of terms in a mathematical series. This can be done by swapping the positions of terms, adding or subtracting terms, or grouping terms together.

Why is rearrangement of series important?

Rearrangement of series is important because it allows us to manipulate and analyze mathematical series in different ways. This can help us better understand the properties and behavior of certain series, and can also be useful in solving complex mathematical problems.

What are some common methods for rearranging series?

Some common methods for rearranging series include using the commutative and associative properties of addition, using algebraic manipulations, and using geometric transformations such as reflections and rotations.

Can rearrangement of series change the value of a series?

Yes, rearrangement of series can change the value of a series. This is because changing the order of terms can result in different sums or products, depending on the properties of the series. It is important to carefully consider the effects of rearrangement when working with mathematical series.

What are some potential pitfalls of rearranging series?

One potential pitfall of rearranging series is that it can lead to incorrect or misleading results. This can happen if the properties of the series are not fully understood or if the rearrangement is done incorrectly. It is important to carefully consider the effects of rearrangement and to double check the results to avoid any errors.

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