Acceleration and cylindrical coordinates

In summary, the conversation is about a student trying to solve a problem involving acceleration equations in cylindrical and intrinsic coordinates. They are having trouble getting the correct answer and are seeking help in finding the error in their method or working.
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Homework Statement


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The Attempt at a Solution


I can't seem to find r¨ and θ¨. Assuming I already got r˙ and θ˙ (the answers are written after the question). The idea I tried was to get the acceleration equation in cylindrical coordinates,
a=(r¨−rθ˙2)r^+(rθ¨+2θ˙r˙)θ^
and the a in intrinsic coordinates (v˙t^+v2/ρn^) in our case I assumed that t^=i and n^=j and that assumption is correct because it got the r˙ right, then I got r^ and θ^ in terms of i and j and now we have 2 equations with 2 unknown. The problem is that it gets the answer wrong, I checked my numbers a trillion time, still can't get the answer, anyone have any idea what is wrong?
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I see nothing wrong with your method or working. Did you find ##\dot r## and ##\dot \theta## independently, or are you just using the numbers given? What numbers do you get for the second derivatives?
 
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haruspex said:
I see nothing wrong with your method or working. Did you find ##\dot r## and ##\dot \theta## independently, or are you just using the numbers given? What numbers do you get for the second derivatives?
i managed to get ##\dot r## and ##\dot \theta## but i didnt include it here, i am going to use the given numbers for now, the question asks for second derivatives he gave me the answers but they don't match mine
 

FAQ: Acceleration and cylindrical coordinates

1. What is acceleration in cylindrical coordinates?

In cylindrical coordinates, acceleration is the rate of change of velocity with respect to time in the cylindrical coordinate system. It is a vector quantity that includes both magnitude and direction.

2. How is acceleration calculated in cylindrical coordinates?

Acceleration in cylindrical coordinates can be calculated using the formula a = (ar, aφ, az) = (∀vr/<∀t>, r∀vφ/<∀t>, ∀vz/<∀t>), where ar, aφ, and az are the accelerations in the radial, tangential, and z-directions respectively, and ∀vr, r∀vφ, and ∀vz are the corresponding velocity components.

3. What is the relationship between acceleration in cylindrical and Cartesian coordinates?

The relationship between acceleration in cylindrical and Cartesian coordinates can be represented as a = (ax, ay, az) = (arcosφ - aφsinφ, arsinφ + aφcosφ, az), where ax, ay, and az are the accelerations in the x, y, and z-directions respectively.

4. How does acceleration affect the motion of an object in cylindrical coordinates?

Acceleration affects the motion of an object in cylindrical coordinates by changing its speed and/or direction. If the acceleration is in the same direction as the velocity, the object will speed up. If the acceleration is in the opposite direction, the object will slow down. If the acceleration is perpendicular to the velocity, the object will change its direction of motion.

5. Can acceleration be negative in cylindrical coordinates?

Yes, acceleration can be negative in cylindrical coordinates. This means that the object is slowing down in the direction of the negative acceleration. It could also mean that the object is speeding up in the opposite direction of the negative acceleration.

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