Acceleration = (Force of boy on sled - Force of friction)/Mass of sled

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving a boy dragging a sled up a hill and calculating the coefficient of kinetic friction and the sled's acceleration when the boy jumps on it. The initial calculations for the mass of the sled and forces acting on it are presented, leading to a coefficient of friction of 0.14. However, there are corrections needed for the normal force, which affects the friction calculation, resulting in a revised coefficient of 0.23. Participants emphasize the importance of drawing a free body diagram and using correct trigonometric functions to resolve forces accurately. The conversation highlights the challenge of solving the problem without knowing the boy's mass but suggests setting up equations symbolically for clarity.
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Homework Statement


A boy drags his ##60.0N## sled at constant speed up a ##15.0°## hill. He does so by pulling with a ##25.0N## force on a rope attached to the sled. If the rope is inclined at ##35.0°## to the horizontal,

(a) What is the coefficient of kinetic friction between sled and snow?
(b) At the top of the hill, he jumps on the sled and slides down the hill. What is the magnitude of his acceleration down the slope?

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


a)
Mass of sled: ##\frac {60N}{9.8m/s^2} = 6.12kg##
Force of gravity on sled parallel to inclined plane: ##mg\sin15° = 15.52N##
Normal force on sled: ##mg\cos15° = 57.93N##
Force of boy on sled: ##25N\cos20° = 23.49N##
I assumed that the boy was pulling the sled ##35°## from the ground, so ##20°## from the inclined plane.
Force of friction: ##23.49N-15.53N = 7.97N##
##μ = \frac {7.97N}{57.93N} = 0.14##

b)
The mass of the boy is not given. Can I still figure out the acceleration?
 
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kubaanglin said:

The Attempt at a Solution


a)
Mass of sled: ##\frac {60N}{9.8m/s^2} = 6.12kg##
Force of gravity on sled parallel to inclined plane: ##mg\sin15° = 15.52N##
Normal force on sled: ##mg\cos15° = 57.93N##
Force of boy on sled: ##25N\cos20° = 23.49N##
I assumed that the boy was pulling the sled ##35°## from the ground, so ##20°## from the inclined plane.
Force of friction: ##23.49N-15.53N = 7.97N##
##μ = \frac {7.97N}{57.93N} = 0.14##
Your calculation of the friction force looks correct. However, your expression for the normal force is not correct. Be sure to draw a good free body diagram.
b)
The mass of the boy is not given. Can I still figure out the acceleration?
Yes.
 
Mass of sled: ##\frac {60N}{9.8m/s^2} = 6.12kg##
Force of gravity on sled parallel to inclined plane: ##mg\sin15° = 15.52N##
Normal force on sled: ##mg\cos15° - 25N\cos20° = 57.93N - 23.49N = 34.44N##
Force of boy on sled: ##25N\cos20° = 23.49N##
Force of friction: ##23.49N-15.53N = 7.97N##
##μ = \frac {7.97N}{34.44N} = 0.23##

I believe I fixed the normal force.

I am a little confused on how to incorporate the friction coefficient without needing to know the mass.
 
kubaanglin said:
Normal force on sled: ##mg\cos15° - 25N\cos20° = 57.93N - 23.49N = 34.44N##

I believe I fixed the normal force.
Almost. Check to see if you're using the correct trig functions.

I am a little confused on how to incorporate the friction coefficient without needing to know the mass.
Set up the equations with symbols and see what happens.
 
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