Age of radioactive sample from sample

In summary, the conversation discusses the radioactive fallout from the Chernobyl disaster and measures the relative activity of two elements, ##^{133}I## and ##^{131}I##, in Sweden. The time of the reactor failure is determined using the law of radioactive decay and the chart of nuclides. The conversation also addresses the calculation of different isotopes using thermal neutrons of ##^{235}U##. There is some discrepancy in the answer provided for the time of the reactor failure, possibly due to a misunderstanding of the units used in the calculation.
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Homework Statement


About a day after the Chernobyl disaster the radioactive fallout landed in Sweden. The relative activity of ##^{133}I (t_{1/2} = 20.8h )## and ##^{131}I (t_{1/2} = 8.02 d)## were measured at 28/4 17:00 at ##270## mBq and ##1000## mBq respectively.
Determine the time of the reactor failure. The exchange for creating different isobars with fission using thermal neutrons of ##^{235}U## can be found in the chart of nuclides.

(I'm afraid I made a rather poor translation but I'm sure the meaning comes across)

Homework Equations


Exponential law of radioactive decay
##N(t) = N_0e^{-\lambda t}##

Half-life
##t_{1/2} =\ln (2) / \lambda##

Nuclear activity
##A(t) = \lambda N(t)##

The Attempt at a Solution


Lets refer to ##^{133}I## as element 1 and ##^{131}I## as element 2.
The ratio of the activities is by the law of radioactive decay is then
##R = \frac{\lambda_1 N_1(t)}{\lambda_2 N_2(t)} = \frac{\lambda_1 N_1(0)}{\lambda_2 N_2(0)} e^{t (\lambda_2-\lambda_1)}##
Rearranging we have
##t = \frac{1}{\lambda_2 - \lambda_1}\ln \left( R\frac{\lambda_2 N_2(0)}{\lambda_1 N_1(0)} \right)##

We know that ##R=0.27## and the decay constants can be computed too
##\lambda_1 = \log (2) /(20.8 \cdot 3600) \approx 9.2568\cdot 10^{-6}##
##\lambda_2 = \log(2)/(8.02 \cdot 3600 \cdot 24) \approx 1.0003\cdot 10^{-6}##.

To find the initial ratio of the elements I looked at the ratio in the Thermal fission yield column here https://www-nds.iaea.org/sgnucdat/c3.htm
##\frac{N_2(0)}{N_1(0)} \approx \frac{2.878}{6.59} \approx 0.4367##.

Inserting all the values we have
##t = \frac{1}{1.003 \cdot 10^{-6}-9.2568\cdot 10^{-6}} \ln \left( 0.27\cdot 0.4367 \frac{1.003}{9.2568}\right) \approx 5.2882\cdot 10^5## seconds or ##146.8951## hours.

So the answer I get Is 14:00 22/4. The provided answer on the other hand claim I should get 17:00 25/4. Am I using the wrong method or the wrong chart or I did I make a mistake somewhere?
 
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Surely the activity ratio at time t (your R) is ##\frac{\lambda_1N_1(t)}{\lambda_2N_2(t)}##.
 
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haruspex said:
Surely the activity ratio at time t (your R) is ##\frac{\lambda_1N_1(t)}{\lambda_2N_2(t)}##.
Nice catch! Edited that now. I remembered the ##\lambda## in the next step in the equation however so it doesn't change the calculation itself.
 
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Incand said:
Nice catch! Edited that now. I remembered the ##\lambda## in the next step in the equation however so it doesn't change the calculation itself.
I cannot find any flaw in your working. Interesting that the official answer is just about half.
 
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Incand said:
different isobars
I guess you mean isotopes.
 
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haruspex said:
I cannot find any flaw in your working. Interesting that the official answer is just about half.
In that case I feel that at least I understand something:D I actually think I knew how they got the different answer now. Seems that if you calculate ##t = \frac{1}{1.003 \cdot 10^{-6}-9.2568\cdot 10^{-6}} \ln \left( 0.27\cdot 0.4367\right)##m that is we actually take the quantities as the amount instead of the activity we get ##71.94## hours. So I'm guessing this may be an error in the answer since they say relative activity and mBq is a unit of activity. Or I guess it could just be a coincidence.

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I guess you mean isotopes.
It should be, weirdly enough the question actually had isobars in it.
 
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Incand said:
we actually take the quantities as the amount instead of the activity we get 71.9471.9471.94 hours
Yes, that must be it.

Incand said:
e question actually had isobars in it.
The perils of predictive text?
 
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1. How can we determine the age of a radioactive sample?

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