Agravic Point Calculation Between Earth and Mars

In summary, the conversation is about determining the location of the agonic point between Earth and Mars, where the gravitational force of both planets is equal. The formula for calculating this point leads to a quadratic equation, but if the distance between the planets is large, the solution may result in a negative number under the square root. The conversation ends with clarification on the correct values to use in the equation to avoid this issue.
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Ok, this extra credit assignment is driving crazy. I keep trying to put it away and work on something important, but it can't get it out of my mind.

The full question is:
On the agonic line between Earth and Mars lies the agravic point with respect to the gravitational fields of the two planets. Determine the location of that point as a function of the locations of both Earth and Mars.

I assume they are talking about the point between the planets where the force of gravity of the Earth equals the force of gravity of mars.

I've tried a few different things to get a formula that would tell me how far from Earth the point would be if the distance between them was known. It keeps leading me to a quadratic with no real solution if the distance between them is large.

Even if I can figure out what I'm doing wrong there, I'm not totally sure it's what the question is asking. What do they mean by "as a function of the locations of both planets"? Shouldn't I be free to set up my own coordinate system with Earth at the origin?

Here's what I have so far:

G = gravitational constant
Me = mass of Earth
Mm = mass of Mars
x = distance between the center of the Earth and the agonic point (I think this should end up being the dependant variable)
d = distance between the Earth and Mars (I think this should be the independent variable)

Since I want to find the point where the gravitational field of the Earth is equal to the gravitational field of Mars, I set them equal to each other.

[tex]\frac{G*Me}{x^2}=\frac{G*Mm}{(d-x)^2}[/tex]

The G's cancel, after a little algebra, I end up with:

[tex]d^2-2dx+(x^2-\frac{Mm}{Me}x^2)[/tex]

If I try to solve this for x I end up with a negative under the square root sign if d is large.

Can someone help me out with this? Am I even getting close?
 
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"If I try to solve this for x I end up with a negative under the square root sign if d is large."

I don't see why you would. Using the quadratic formula, the "discriminant" (b2- 4ac) for this equation is
[tex]4d^2- 4(1-\frac{M_m}){M_e}d^2}= 4d^2(\frac{M_m}{M_e})[/tex].

That's positive as long as the masses are!
 
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Thanks, I see it now. I had used B=-2 instead of B=-2d and then just kept making the same mistake over an over.
 

FAQ: Agravic Point Calculation Between Earth and Mars

What exactly is an Agravic point between planets?

An Agravic point between planets, also known as a Lagrange point, is a location in space where the gravitational pull of two or more celestial bodies cancels out, creating a point of equilibrium.

How many Agravic points exist between planets?

There are five known Agravic points between planets, labeled L1-L5, with L1, L2, and L3 being located along the line connecting the two larger bodies, and L4 and L5 being located 60 degrees ahead and behind the smaller body in its orbit.

What are the main uses of Agravic points between planets?

Agravic points have a variety of uses, including serving as stable locations for spacecraft and satellites, acting as a source of natural resources such as asteroids, and providing opportunities for astronomical observations.

How are Agravic points between planets calculated and identified?

The calculation of Agravic points involves complex mathematical equations, taking into account the masses and distances of the celestial bodies involved. They can also be identified through observations and simulations.

Are there any potential risks associated with Agravic points between planets?

While Agravic points can provide many benefits, there are also potential risks, such as the presence of space debris and the instability of the points themselves, which can make it difficult for spacecraft to maintain their position.

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