Algebra Question: Simplifying Ration Questions

In summary, the conversation is about factoring a rational expression with a polynomial numerator and denominator. The participants discuss strategies for factoring, including using shortcuts and the quadratic equation. They also suggest trying different factors to simplify the expression. The conversation ends with the person thanking everyone for their help and stating they will try their methods and return with an answer.
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Lamonte
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Alright It's been a while since I did algebra and now I'm getting back into it in honors algebra 2 (shakes head) [high school]. Anyways I got a question on factoring numerators.

[tex]6x^{2} + 7x + 2[/tex]
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[tex]4x^{2} - 1[/tex]

I don't know where to start, if someone can be a guidance this would be much appreciated I was trying to http://www.analyzemath.com/Rational_expressions/Simp_rat_expre.html" but the walk through didn't really show me how they got to the next step.

Thanks in advanced
 
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Try factoring. If you find a binomial which occurs in both the numerator and the denominator then you can eliminate as a factor of 1.

For the numerator, start tries using:
(2x + ?)(3x + ?), and if that does not help, try (6x + ?)(x + ?);
but what you really will rely on is the presence of (2x+1) in numerator AND denominator. Otherwise, you will not be able to simplify the given expression.
 
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For the bottom, it's just the difference of squares factorization. a^2 - b^2 = (a-b)(a+b). The top is a bit trickier. But if you're new to factoring, maybe this will help.

Set the numerator equal to (rx + s)(tx + v). Now multiply out this expression and equate its terms to the terms of the numerator. You should be able to find suitable r,s,t,v and then you'll have the factorization. Don't forget to multiply out to check.
 
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Welcome to PF!

Lamonte said:
[tex]6x^{2} + 7x + 2[/tex]
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[tex]4x^{2} - 1[/tex]

I don't know where to start,

Hi Lamonte ! Welcome to PF! :smile:

Useful tip: This isn't real life, it's an exam question, so it probably has an easy answer.

You know that they want you find a common factor, and you can probably see exactly what the two factors of the denominator are.

So just try both of them in the numerator … if it's a sensible exam question, then one of them should work! :wink:
 
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To add to tiny-tim's answer- even in "real life" where problems don't always have easy answers, since you are trying to simplify the fraction, the only reason you want to factor is to be able to cancel. You should be able to see quickly that 4x2- 1 factors as (2x-1)(2x+ 1). Then try each of those as a factor of 6x2+ 7x+ 2. If it is a factor, good, you can factor and cancel. If neither is a factor, also good. You know that cannot be simplified.
 
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As have been stated, the denominator should be easily factored using the following shortcuts (which you should have learned, but might have forgotten if it was a while ago):

[tex](a-b)^2 = a^2 - 2ab + b^2[/tex]
[tex](a+b)^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2[/tex]
[tex](a+b)(a-b) = a^2 -b^2[/tex]

These things come up over and over, you need to practice so that you spot them easily.

As for the discriminant: First, I check to see if the expression is a complete square. If it is not, then I factor it using the quadratic equation. You can also factor by completing the square, but that is just more writing. It is good to know both ways though, since when you work with only variables it makes more sense to complete (as a way to derive the quadratic equation from Ax^2 + Bx + C, for example).

I assume you remember what the terms I used mean, if you don't then you probably need to backtrack a bit to freshen your memory on earlier topics.

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Thanks for the help guys will give it a try and return with an answer
 

FAQ: Algebra Question: Simplifying Ration Questions

What does it mean to simplify a rational expression?

Simplifying a rational expression means to reduce it to its simplest form by canceling out common factors in the numerator and denominator.

How do I simplify a rational expression?

To simplify a rational expression, first factor both the numerator and denominator completely. Then, cancel out any common factors in the numerator and denominator. Finally, rewrite the simplified expression without any remaining common factors.

Can a rational expression be simplified if it contains variables?

Yes, a rational expression can still be simplified even if it contains variables. The same steps of factoring and canceling out common factors still apply.

What is the difference between simplifying and solving a rational equation?

Simplifying a rational expression involves reducing it to its simplest form, while solving a rational equation involves finding the value(s) of the variable that make the equation true.

Why is it important to simplify rational expressions?

Simplifying rational expressions helps to make them easier to work with and understand. It also allows us to identify any restrictions on the variable, and can help in solving rational equations.

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