All sequence riddles are wrong .why?

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In summary, the conversation discusses the concept of sequence riddles and how there can be an unlimited number of possible answers. The main point is that for any given sequence, there can be multiple equations or patterns that can be used to continue the sequence, making it difficult to determine the correct answer. The conversation also touches on the importance of simplicity in finding the "best" answer and the idea that there can be multiple layers of rules and patterns within a sequence.
  • #36
DavidWhitbeck said:
No because sequences are by definition subsets of N.

Those are natual number sequences

There are real sequences like
3,3.1,3.14,3.1415,3.1415926,3.141592653...
rational seqences
.1,.11,.111,.1111,.11111,...

A sequence is a mapping of the natural numbers to an arbitrary set
or if one prefers
we can define a seed and a map f:S->S
ie
seed=a0
a1=f(a0)
sucsessor(an)=an+1
f^n(seed)=an
 
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All this said there is some value in trying to choose a best in some sense sucsession function given a run of a sequence
thhe trouble is knowing which sense our some sense should be
 
  • #38
lurflurf said:
A sequence is a mapping of the natural numbers to an arbitrary set
or if one prefers
we can define a seed and a map f:S->S

Oops not general enough
we will just go with
f:N->S
S an arbitrary set
so maybe we have

1,2,3,4,5,...,88,89,pickles
 
  • #39
lurflurf said:
A sequence is a mapping of the natural numbers to an arbitrary set
n

I may just be playing devil's advocate, but who says sequences have to be infinite?

1, 3, 4, 6, 8 ...

what comes next? perhaps the answer is undefined, or nothing.
 
  • #40
good point there are I speak of one popular sequence there are also
finite sequences
double sequences
sequences over other index sets like
Moore-Smith sequences

many times the tradition sequence structure can be used
such as
11/8,9/7,7/6,5/5,3/4,1/3,-1/2,-3/1,-5/0,-7/-1
we could interpet formally, or if it is to be interpeted as division well could mark problems as "undefind" which we could ad to the domain

for finite sets we could repeat the final entry of append a sybmol
1,2,3,4,5
could be
1,2,3,4,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,5,...
0r
1,2,3,4,5,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,...
or
1,2,3,4,5,done,done,done,done,done,...
 

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