Allowable gap clearance for pipe supports

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In summary, the gap between the bolts and the top of the support is too large. The support should be clamped to the pipe and the bolts tightened to their required torques.
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I have a 30" diameter pipe that is supported about every 5-6 ft using bolts in a steel pipe support. As you can see in the attached photo, there is a pretty good size gap between the bolt/nut and the top surface of the pipe support, and also between the two faces of the interface. My question is where can I find a good resource on allowable gap spacing between these types of pipe supports (these pipes are galvanized carbon steel and are for transporting water)? My gut tells me to place a shim between the bottom gap and leave the top gap open, but this is purely speculation without some decent documentation on the allowable spacing.

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Hi steve. Supports every 5 to 6 feet for a 30" pipe seems far to close together. An engineer should have done an analysis on your piping stresses and provided all the information to support the pipe including any gaps to be provided in clamps or other pipe supports. You should have gotten drawings indicating how to support the pipe and where.

Typically, stress analysis is done using a software program similar to structural FEA programs and per ASME or piping code rules, depending on what country you live in. Loads on the pipe due to weight, contents and external loads such as ice or snow are only a small part of the analysis. Thermal contraction/expansion and the resulting stresses can be enormous and have to be taken into consideration when installing pipe this large. I wouldn't look for help on the internet for pipe support analysis, you'll need a piping stress engineer to come up with a proper design for the supports and provide you with engineering drawings.
 
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Let's assume that OP's company has done some form of analysis, or has decided to forgo analysis and opted to overdesign.

I'm not sure what's going on there in that picture, if the support is floating (not touching the support base nor pulling on the nuts) then it isn't a support, it's just a hanging weight.

If the purpose of some of these intermediate supports is for training (i.e. the support is allowed to move in one direction to allow for expansion) then just leave it. But this is not the standard, nor proper way to train a pipe.

If this is actually a support, shim it and tighten the bolts to their required torques.
 
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FAQ: Allowable gap clearance for pipe supports

What is the purpose of allowable gap clearance for pipe supports?

The purpose of allowable gap clearance for pipe supports is to ensure that the pipes are properly supported without any excessive movement or strain. It helps to maintain the structural integrity of the pipes and prevents potential damage or failure.

How is the allowable gap clearance determined for different types of pipes?

The allowable gap clearance is determined based on the size, material, and weight of the pipes, as well as the type of support being used. Industry standards and codes, such as ASME B31.1 and B31.3, provide guidelines for determining the appropriate gap clearance for different pipe sizes and materials.

Can the allowable gap clearance be adjusted for different operating conditions?

Yes, the allowable gap clearance can be adjusted based on the operating conditions of the pipes, such as temperature, pressure, and fluid flow. These factors can affect the expansion and contraction of the pipes, and therefore, may require a different gap clearance to maintain proper support.

What are the consequences of not following the recommended allowable gap clearance?

If the recommended allowable gap clearance is not followed, it can lead to excessive movement or stress on the pipes, which can result in leaks, cracks, or even pipe failure. This can be costly and potentially dangerous, as it can lead to disruptions in operations and potential hazards to personnel.

How often should the allowable gap clearance for pipe supports be checked?

The allowable gap clearance for pipe supports should be checked regularly, especially during maintenance and inspection periods, to ensure that it is still within the recommended range. It is also important to check after any modifications or changes are made to the piping system, as this may affect the required gap clearance.

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