Also O.D.E stuck on integration step

In summary, the conversation involves a problem with the equation y'(cosh^2)x - (sin^2)y = 0, where y(0)=pi/2. The person is stuck on the integration step and suggests using the definition of hyperbolic functions. They also mention Osborne's Rule as a general way to solve this type of problem. The conversation concludes with the clarification that the integral of sech²x is equal to tanhx.
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y` (cosh^2)x - (sin^2)y = 0, y(0)=pi/2
i'm also stuck on the integration step...
my first step is
dy/((sin^2)y)=dx/(cosh^2)x
however, i don't how to integrate the right side~
 
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  • #2
You could try using the definition:

[tex]\cosh \left( x \right) \equiv \frac{{e^x + e^{ - x} }}{2}[/tex]
 
  • #3
ok, i'll try that~
thanks!
 
  • #4
Formula for hyperbolic functions closely mirror those for circular functions
tan'(x)=(sec(x))^2
tanh'(x)=(sech(x))^2
Osbornes Rule is a way to do this in general
http://mathworld.wolfram.com/OsbornesRule.html
 
  • #5
wow~ i thought that only cos and sin have that kinda identity...
thanks! :)
 
  • #6
hmm...
if i use [tex]\cosh \left( x \right) \equiv \frac{{e^x + e^{ - x} }}{2}[/tex] to integrate cosh^2x=(e^2x + e^(-2x) +1)/2,
then [integrated(cosh)dx]=[(1/4)e^2x+(1/4)e^(-2x) + x/2]
but does that equal tanhx?
 
  • #7
I'm afraid not. It's the integral of sech²x that is equal to tanhx.

let y = tanhx
then
y = sinhx/coshx
y' = {coshx.(sinhx)' - sinhx.(coshx)'} / cosh²x
y' = {cosh²x - sinh²x} / cosh²x
y' = 1 / cosh²x
y' = sech²x
 
  • #8
ok, thanks!
 

FAQ: Also O.D.E stuck on integration step

1. What is an O.D.E?

An O.D.E, or ordinary differential equation, is a mathematical equation that describes how a variable changes over time, based on its current value and the rate at which it is changing.

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When an O.D.E is stuck on an integration step, it means that the numerical method used to solve the equation has encountered a problem and is unable to proceed to the next step. This can be caused by a variety of factors such as a poor initial guess, numerical instability, or a singularity in the equation.

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