Amplitude of Feynman diagram in ##\phi^4## interactions

In summary, the conversation discusses a question on Chapter 19 of the book "Quantum Field Theory for Gifted Amateurs" by Tom Lancaster. The question involves computing the amplitude of a Feynman diagram in momentum space. The incorrect solution includes terms for ##k_3## and ##k_4##, which can be eliminated using energy-momentum conservation. The correct solution only includes terms for ##k_1## and ##k_2##. The conversation also suggests studying the Feynman rules of QED for a better understanding of this concept.
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Homework Statement
Calculate the amplitude of this Feynman diagram in momentum space for $\phi^4$ theory
Relevant Equations
None
This is not really homework assigned to me but I wasn't sure where to post this.
I'm trying to work through the book "Quantum Field Theory for Gifted Amateurs" by Tom Lancaster. I'm doing the questions on Chapter 19 to understand how to draw Feynman diagrams and work out their amplitude. One of the exercises involved the computation of the amplitude of the following Feynman diagram in momentum space:

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What I got was the following:

$$2\pi ^4 \delta^{(4)} (p_1+p_2- q_1 -q_2) \frac{(-i \lambda)^3}{4} \int {\frac{d^4 k_1 d^4 k_2 d^4 k_3 d^4k_4}{(2\pi)^16}}
\frac{i}{k_1^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon}
\frac{i}{k_2^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon} \times \\
\frac{i}{(p_1 +p_2 - k_3)^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon}
\frac{i}{(p_1 +p_2 - k_4)^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon}
$$

This is the diagram I drew to compute this

1618684739554.png


But it turns that the correct solution should be

$$2\pi ^4 \delta^{(4)} (p_1+p_2- q_1 -q_2) \frac{(-i \lambda)^3}{4} \int {\frac{d^4 k_1 d^4 k_2}{(2\pi)^8}}
\frac{i}{k_1^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon}
\frac{i}{k_2^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon} \times \\
\frac{i}{(p_1 +p_2 - k_1)^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon}
\frac{i}{(p_1 +p_2 - k_2)^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon}
$$

I don't quite get how to get rid of the ##k_3## and ##k_4## terms as they did in the solution. I assume this is due to the conservation of momentum but I'm not sure.
 
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Homework Statement:: Calculate the amplitude of this Feynman diagram in momentum space for $\phi^4$ theory
Relevant Equations:: None

This is not really homework assigned to me but I wasn't sure where to post this.
I'm trying to work through the book "Quantum Field Theory for Gifted Amateurs" by Tom Lancaster. I'm doing the questions on Chapter 19 to understand how to draw Feynman diagrams and work out their amplitude. One of the exercises involved the computation of the amplitude of the following Feynman diagram in momentum space:

View attachment 281695
What I got was the following:

$$2\pi ^4 \delta^{(4)} (p_1+p_2- q_1 -q_2) \frac{(-i \lambda)^3}{4} \int {\frac{d^4 k_1 d^4 k_2 d^4 k_3 d^4k_4}{(2\pi)^16}}
\frac{i}{k_1^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon}
\frac{i}{k_2^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon} \times \\
\frac{i}{(p_1 +p_2 - k_3)^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon}
\frac{i}{(p_1 +p_2 - k_4)^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon}
$$

This is the diagram I drew to compute this

View attachment 281696

But it turns that the correct solution should be

$$2\pi ^4 \delta^{(4)} (p_1+p_2- q_1 -q_2) \frac{(-i \lambda)^3}{4} \int {\frac{d^4 k_1 d^4 k_2}{(2\pi)^8}}
\frac{i}{k_1^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon}
\frac{i}{k_2^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon} \times \\
\frac{i}{(p_1 +p_2 - k_1)^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon}
\frac{i}{(p_1 +p_2 - k_2)^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon}
$$

I don't quite get how to get rid of the ##k_3## and ##k_4## terms as they did in the solution. I assume this is due to the conservation of momentum but I'm not sure.
In your Feynman diagram, ##k_1## and ##k_2## are not completely independent due to momentum conservation. The same goes for ##k_3## and ##k_4## as well. I guess ##k_1## and ##k_2## in the final "correct" solution denote different momentum lines compared to those in the Feynman diagram you draw.
 
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The "trick" is to ask yourself the question "how many four-momentum terms can be fixed by energy-momentum conservation?"

Note that in your particular example you have 3 vertices, where energy-momentum conservation holds. Based on your notation, from left to right we get ##p_1+p_2 = k_1 + k_2, \quad k_1 + k_2 = k_3 + k_4, \quad k_3 + k_4 = q_1 + q_2## (and do not forget ##p_1+p_2 = q_1+ q_2## due to the Dirac delta function. However, your confusion is not related directly to the Dirac delta so let's focus on the vertices instead).

You have ##4## internal momentum terms. The question is: how many of those can you rewrite in terms of others via energy-momentum conservation? With the above equations you can see the answer is two and the and the term associated to the diagram reads (I chose to leave ##k_2## and ##k_4## as the independent ones)

\begin{equation*}
2\pi ^4 \delta^{(4)} (q_1+q_2- p_1 -p_2) \frac{(-i \lambda)^3}{4} \int {\frac{d^4 k_2 d^4 k_4}{(2\pi)^8}}
\frac{i}{k_2^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon}
\frac{i}{k_4^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon} \times \\
\frac{i}{(p_1 +p_2 - k_2)^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon}
\frac{i}{(p_1 +p_2 - k_4)^2 -m^2 +i\epsilon}
\end{equation*}

PS: If you are not acquainted with asking yourself how many momentum terms are fixed, I recommend you study the Feynman rules of QED and in particular the rule that deals with such question. For instance, you can find it in Mandl & Shaw, section 7.3 (the rule of your interest is 7.).
 
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FAQ: Amplitude of Feynman diagram in ##\phi^4## interactions

What is the significance of the amplitude of Feynman diagrams in ##\phi^4## interactions?

The amplitude of Feynman diagrams in ##\phi^4## interactions is a measure of the probability of a given particle interaction occurring. It takes into account the strength of the interaction and the number of particles involved, and is an important quantity in understanding the behavior of particles in these interactions.

How is the amplitude of Feynman diagrams calculated in ##\phi^4## interactions?

The amplitude of Feynman diagrams in ##\phi^4## interactions is calculated using Feynman rules, which involve assigning values to each line and vertex in the diagram based on the properties of the particles involved. These values are then combined to give the overall amplitude of the diagram.

Can the amplitude of Feynman diagrams be negative in ##\phi^4## interactions?

Yes, the amplitude of Feynman diagrams in ##\phi^4## interactions can be negative. This is because the Feynman rules take into account both constructive and destructive interference between different paths of particle interactions, which can result in a negative overall amplitude.

How does the amplitude of Feynman diagrams affect the behavior of particles in ##\phi^4## interactions?

The amplitude of Feynman diagrams plays a crucial role in determining the likelihood of a given particle interaction occurring. A higher amplitude means a higher probability of the interaction happening, while a lower amplitude means a lower probability. This ultimately affects the overall behavior and dynamics of particles in these interactions.

Is there a relationship between the amplitude of Feynman diagrams and the strength of the interaction in ##\phi^4## interactions?

Yes, there is a direct relationship between the amplitude of Feynman diagrams and the strength of the interaction in ##\phi^4## interactions. The higher the amplitude, the stronger the interaction between particles, and vice versa. This relationship is described by the mathematical equations used in Feynman rules.

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