An example of state determination (Ballentine Problem 8.4)

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Homework Statement
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Relevant Equations
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My work is below. I got (a), but cannot get (b):

(a) It was a theorem proved in the text that any measurement on one subsystem will always be fully determined by the reduced state operator of the corresponding subsystem. That is, any measurement of an observable on the composite system represented by an operator of the form (take subsystem 1 WLOG) ##R^{(1) }\otimes I^{(2)}## can be predicted only in terms of the reduced state operator ##\rho^{(1)}## (see the bottom of 217). Thus we begin answering this problem by computing the two reduced state operators. First we need ##\rho##, which can be found (since this is a pure state initially given in ket representation) as (note we use the shorthand that, for example, ##\ket{+-} \equiv \ket{+} \otimes \ket{-}##)
$$\rho = \ket{\psi_c}\bra{\psi_c} = \frac{1}{2}\left(\ket{+-}\bra{+-} +c\ket{-+}\bra{+-} +c^*\ket{+-}\bra{-+} +\ket{-+}\bra{-+}\right),$$
where we have used ##|c|^2 = 1##.
Then we immediately find (tracing over the relevant subsystem and using the definition of the inner product on a tensor product space)
$$\rho^{(1)} = \frac{1}{2}\left(\ket{+}\bra{+} + \ket{-}\bra{-}\right) = \rho^{(2)}.$$
The reduced state operators are independent of ##c##, and it's thus immediately clear that no measurements on only one subsystem can distinguish between composite states with different values of ##c## (since any such measurement would use the reduced state operator which is independent of ##c##).

(b) Obviously we'll need to make use of "cross terms". Consider measuring 1 along the ##x## and 2 along the ##y##. We can see from the structure of the Pauli matrices that in this ##\sigma_z## basis we have
$$\sigma_x = \ket{-}\bra{+} + \ket{+}\bra{-}$$
$$\sigma_y = i\ket{-}\bra{+} -i\ket{+}\bra{-}$$
Then using the linearity of the tensor product we get to
$$\sigma_x^{(1)} \otimes\sigma_y^{(2)} = (\ket{-}\bra{+} + \ket{+}\bra{-}) \otimes (i\ket{-}\bra{+} -i\ket{+}\bra{-}) = i\ket{--}\bra{++} +i\ket{+-}\bra{-+} -i\ket{-+}\bra{+-} -i\ket{++}\bra{--},$$
where we have used our shorthand notation. Next, we compute
$$\rho \sigma_x^{(1)} \otimes\sigma_y^{(2)} = \frac{1}{2}\left(i\ket{+-}\bra{-+} + ci\ket{-+}\bra{-+} -c^*i\ket{+-}\bra{+-} -i\ket{-+}\bra{+-}\right)$$
Finally, we have
$$\langle\sigma_x^{(1)} \otimes\sigma_y^{(2)}\rangle = Tr({\rho \sigma_x^{(1)} \otimes\sigma_y^{(2)}}) = \frac{1}{2}(i + ci -c^*i - i) = \frac{1}{2}(ci + (ci)^*) = \Re(ci) =-\Im(c).$$

But I can't figure out another measurement to get me the real part of ##c##. I tried ##\sigma_y^{(1)} \otimes\sigma_x^{(2)}## as well as ##\sigma_z^{(1)} \otimes\sigma_x^{(2)}## but the former gave me the imaginary part again and the latter gave me zero IIRC. Can anyone supply a hint for what to check, or a better way to proceed here?
 
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I guess you should try measuring arbitrary directions, i.e., the observable ##\vec{n_1} \cdot \hat{\vec{\sigma}}^{(1)} \otimes \vec{n}_2 \cdot \hat{\vec{\sigma}}^{(2)}## with arbitrary unit vectors ##\vec{n}_1## and ##\vec{n}_2##.
 
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Related to An example of state determination (Ballentine Problem 8.4)

What is the main concept behind Ballentine Problem 8.4?

Ballentine Problem 8.4 focuses on the concept of state determination in quantum mechanics. It typically involves determining the quantum state of a system based on given measurements or constraints. This problem often requires applying principles of quantum theory to extract information about the state vector or density matrix of a system.

What mathematical tools are commonly used to solve state determination problems?

To solve state determination problems, one commonly uses linear algebra, specifically the theory of Hilbert spaces, eigenvalues, and eigenvectors. Techniques from probability theory and statistics are also employed, particularly when dealing with mixed states and density matrices. Additionally, knowledge of quantum measurement theory is essential.

How does one approach solving Ballentine Problem 8.4?

Approaching Ballentine Problem 8.4 typically involves identifying the given measurements or constraints and then using them to construct the state vector or density matrix. This may include solving systems of linear equations, applying the Born rule for probabilities, and using the completeness relation. Detailed step-by-step calculations are often necessary to arrive at the correct state.

What are common pitfalls when solving state determination problems?

Common pitfalls include misinterpreting the given measurements, neglecting the normalization condition of the state vector, and overlooking the need for the density matrix to be Hermitian and positive semi-definite. Additionally, errors can arise from incorrect application of quantum mechanical principles such as the superposition principle and the measurement postulates.

Can Ballentine Problem 8.4 be generalized to other quantum systems?

Yes, the principles and methods used in Ballentine Problem 8.4 can be generalized to other quantum systems. The process of state determination is a fundamental aspect of quantum mechanics and is applicable to various systems, whether they involve different types of particles, interactions, or measurement setups. The key is to appropriately adapt the mathematical framework to the specifics of the system under consideration.

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