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The Ashoori group is claiming to have a picture of the ACTUAL energy density. (NOT the "wavefunction" associated with the particle).
Something does not add up. We should not be able to “see” the energy density of something as small as 10^-18.
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http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0707/0707.1686v1.pdf
High-resolution spectroscopy of two-dimensional electron
systems
O. E. Dial_, R. C. Ashoori_, L. N. Pfei_ery, K. W. Westy
July 11, 2007
Don’t forget to look at page 16.
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http://www.fen.bilkent.edu.tr/~yalabik/applets/collapse.html
Remember that the electron itself is a very small particle, less in size than the size of a point (a pixel) in the figure. However, the "wavefunction" associated with the particle typically may extend over a scale of tens of nanometers. At any time, the square magnitude of the wavefunction plotted in the figure would be proportional to the probability of detecting the particle at that point, if the whole plane was covered with electron detectors which would be activated at that instant in time. Only one of those detectors would then "click", with the corresponding probability. The wavefunction will then instantly lose its meaning and is said to "collapse".
How the electron itself moves (whether it passes through one of the slits or both - or how the wavefunction is related to the actual electron) is a question that is not well defined in quantum mechanics - some would say that it is not a valid question.
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It has to do with our understanding of what electrons and photons can or cannot do.
It has to do with our understanding of the “quark sea” and the “drip line”
Is the electron size 10^-18 or more?
Is the pattern that was created a confirmation that there is a simple symmetrical structure at 10^-18 that is reflected in the position/structure of the electrons as shown by the Ashoori group?
What kind of dynamics are going on inside the electron that make it possible for us to “see” it at larger scale?
More of their work is at
http://eprintweb.org/S/authors/All/as/Ashoori
and they have a home page at
http://electron.mit.edu/
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What impact does this new info have for the theoretical side? (LQG)
Maybe other forums would be interested in giving their inputs.
(I already raised the question in my blog.)
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jal
Something does not add up. We should not be able to “see” the energy density of something as small as 10^-18.
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http://arxiv.org/PS_cache/arxiv/pdf/0707/0707.1686v1.pdf
High-resolution spectroscopy of two-dimensional electron
systems
O. E. Dial_, R. C. Ashoori_, L. N. Pfei_ery, K. W. Westy
July 11, 2007
Don’t forget to look at page 16.
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Quote
http://www.fen.bilkent.edu.tr/~yalabik/applets/collapse.html
Remember that the electron itself is a very small particle, less in size than the size of a point (a pixel) in the figure. However, the "wavefunction" associated with the particle typically may extend over a scale of tens of nanometers. At any time, the square magnitude of the wavefunction plotted in the figure would be proportional to the probability of detecting the particle at that point, if the whole plane was covered with electron detectors which would be activated at that instant in time. Only one of those detectors would then "click", with the corresponding probability. The wavefunction will then instantly lose its meaning and is said to "collapse".
How the electron itself moves (whether it passes through one of the slits or both - or how the wavefunction is related to the actual electron) is a question that is not well defined in quantum mechanics - some would say that it is not a valid question.
--------------
It has to do with our understanding of what electrons and photons can or cannot do.
It has to do with our understanding of the “quark sea” and the “drip line”
Is the electron size 10^-18 or more?
Is the pattern that was created a confirmation that there is a simple symmetrical structure at 10^-18 that is reflected in the position/structure of the electrons as shown by the Ashoori group?
What kind of dynamics are going on inside the electron that make it possible for us to “see” it at larger scale?
More of their work is at
http://eprintweb.org/S/authors/All/as/Ashoori
and they have a home page at
http://electron.mit.edu/
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What impact does this new info have for the theoretical side? (LQG)
Maybe other forums would be interested in giving their inputs.
(I already raised the question in my blog.)
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jal
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